The New Jerusalem

[Elijah]

The new restored Jerusalem for Christians and Catholics should not be Jews or it is a denunciation of Jesus to do so. Here is presented one example of choice as our New Jerusalem to be killed as Jesus was killed.

[Admin1]

... example of choice as our New Jerusalem to be killed ...

Who are you referring to by "our"?
and
What do you mean by "to be killed"?

[Elijah]

Using the word OUR means a new Jerusalem for any person human man woman to accept and put faith in. Like saying Jesus is OUR king while others will say nope maybe yours but not mine.
It is just my open invitation to tell others it can be OURS.

To be killed is a prediction. A prediction that others will hate the true new hope, like Cain angry and jealous and pissed at Abel, like Esau hating Jacob his brother as if his right had been stolen, like Miriam and Aaron who didnt take well to seeing little brother Moses take a Lead. I dont think it is my flaw, or my pessimism to perceive people as killers. That's the only intent of my words i imply.

Our New Jerusalem is not on Earth but in heaven. Jesus claimed he was selecting a church bride to be mother to the children he raises. So he has two sheeps, two churches, a mother and a child. The mother will be raised to heaven to raise the child on earth to be what the child was meant to be raised by Adam and Eve. There are many religions who all teach the Church goes to heaven. There are many religions who all believe this Church is the wife or body of the Messiah or Christ or Prophet. If Jesus went back to where he came from by being killed, there is most probability that his bride Church also goes to heaven by being killed. Though not all of that Church have been martyred or killed, the prophecies do say the Church is surrounded when the end comes but they win triumphant. So I ask you, when they killed Jesus did he lose, or did he win triumphant. Did they win by killing him. I think not. This is true for anyone. If they kill the Church. The Church wins. If the Church dies in a war fighting back, then they have not won with the idea they fought in battle and went to heaven. Jesus and his apostles did not fight in battle and go to heaven. Their battle was verbal. So too if the Church is killed, it is in a verbal battle not by taking sword. Will the Church be killed. The apostle Peter said to Jesus you will not die. He presumed at worst perhaps prison for Jesus because killing him would not be legal. Or he was blind not even seeing it was about to happen. But Jesus called him Satan, your best friend being a resistance to what must happen. The Church will be surrounded. Will they fight? Will they be killed?
Jesus lived in a Jewish culture that had accepted the Greek concept that the reward to heaven had started already. So therefore Jesus was unique in religion saying no one has gone to heaven yet, he will go first. This would make people hate him for saying their relatives are not in heaven yet, no not in heaven at all. And to say first he would go was offensive. No doubt mockery would say great he's dead, now we can all go there too hahaha. But today there is a religion who says 144,000 are going to heaven and they say there are less than 10,000 left to go. This religion will not exist if these go to heaven and there is no Armageddon. Therefore many books publish this as a dead end religion when these last of 144,000 get old enough to die. However, in their hearts the killing of them would determine that sooner. And should that religion take warning that others have not taken, then hate alone as they had for Martha Stewart will come after them. Accusations like Waco, and Jonestown which have been made will be pushed. Like Jesus, they say that no one has gone to heaven until first they do. The 144,000 are the ones who go to heaven before anyone else gets life at all, or even consideration of life. As with Jesus, the world turns to them and says who do you think you are, you think you are God. And kill them.
Or do you think this world is very good and will only put them in prison.
I say the body of the Christ has a head who is Jesus, and the body is 134,000 until the day the feet or last 10,000 join them. Have you not heard of Pentecostals speaking of rapture... they take this claim as future saints. Or what of the Mormon Latter Day Saints! According to Genesis the last ones of our population or the feet of that Christ will be bruised and killed for Satan to attempt blame on faulty Adam and Eve. But the feet will rise as Jesus did, and together the whole body of Christ will destroy Satan whether he be a real spirit or within all mankind. I have no doubt in my mind at all that for 40 days they will show themselves in the flesh after they are killed. Jesus did this. He did this because 40 days after Noah died, the spirit Xisuthros appeared to Babel priests and said he was Noah; when in fact Xisuthrus was forced back to heaven during the 40-day Flood which was 350 years before that. Xisuthrus sits behind the USA presidency, as he stood against Noah the year before the Flood, he now stands against the true real New World again before Armageddon.
The destruction then ignored as was the astral impact of the Earth for Noah, which collapsed a 30-pound water canopy of 66 feet, and drop the plate of Ararat 11,000 feet so that sea level was 22 feet over it is again here. I cannot say whether the asteroid is big enough to raise oceans 1000 or 2000 or 3000 or 4000 feet, but the ice caps alone will raise water levels 200 feet, and the impact will lift the ocean floors again as it did on Julian November 20 of 2370 BC (2-10-600) seven days before the American collapse of the water canopy reached the ark in Shurrupak and tsunami pushed it 520 miles to Ararat.

I am a realist. Dont try to corner me into claiming threats against anyone. Becuase that is how i take your question. Satan is out there to return hatred against what God requires me to publish and speak out about.
Me?  with paranoia. Well 70% of being abused will cause anyone to have their eyes open 90% in fear. I understand the concept of paranoia breeding paranoia, i have a friend who loses jobs because they wonder what is with him, his flaw being he looks at them and answers them as if everything they say is out to get him. So i can and do recognize it can exist, i have been on the edge there myself and done the self-diagnosis. Buut i think we all can reach that border. Do be so sure.
ELIJAH

[Admin1]

...Dont try to corner me into...

No attempt to do so intended.  I just honestly did not know what you meant

[Moses]

Jesus and his desiples were Jews. They considered them selves real Jews.

Just like today Christians see some as real Christians wile others as non real Christians.

Also the translation of New Testament is not alway correct in many places it is not Jews but Judeans i.e residents of Judea just like Jesus was from Galely
i.e Galili or galelean.

The New Jerusalem will be filled with Israel, gods believers, the three and the branches the fathers and the sons.

The real Elijah when he comes he will bring together Jews and Christians as Harts of Fathers are - Jews and Harts of Suns are Christians.

the Jews and the Christian Church will Come Together in the Last Days.

In the day of judgement it faith and actions of the person that will save them or condemn them

In that time of restoration many will hold the

[Elijah]

I will agree that it was many decades before I came to realize that Jews was merely a short form of saying Judah, the awaiting Messiah thru him and his sons. But Paul himself makes quite clear that the Christian congregation gathered by Jesus was not required to become Jew first then Christian. The Greeks were required to become Christians, not become Christian Jews. This meant not just the fact that Jews had added to expectations by God Jehovah, but even the basics by Moses proved no good result other than Jesus himself. Thus Jesus proved Moses' Law (perception of Jehovah) could be obeyed perfectly, in a true perception, not in the perception of his contemporaries, his Jews who killed him for sins they claimed he had. (This is not blame setting on Jews, the Romans willingly complied to do this.) But the bottom line is, okay Moses Law can be perfect in the way Jesus obeyed it, and Jesus said Look the Law can be defined smaller yet in words which will create a simpler greater expectation out of each person called LOVE.

That the final church is both Jew and Christian, then Paul proves this is meant spiritual in heart. The church wil be both Jews in behavior and Christians in behavior by definition, and not by flesh or church membership. The fleshly Jews and the Christendom membership trying to merge will not work, they are not of the same kind other than their greed, and desire to be the Messiah and say Look what I do for God while many are killed whether in blood or in spirit or finances. The BIble assures us that the guilt of the resurrected will be great because they will see all that they did was a dead-end, they did not bring the kingdom of God nor save the world, and the simple church who saved the world did it simply by surviving.... those survivors can and will raise all the dead. But you hate them now because they say those who die are against God and die forever. And in truth this is, because no power exists to raise anyone if the church wife of Jesus does not get to heaven, and do so faithfully as Satan now kills them. It takes hate to do that. It took hate to kill Jesus. This is a thing to be expected, that the church is hated and killed, and the karma turns on them because it is the followers who survive while the world dies both by God and as they turn on each other globally.

Unless a perception is understood, then a discussion of jews and Christians results in no path because it ignores Islam and Buddhist and Shintoism etc. People fail to see these were fork paths to other Messiahs who merely will or already have failed. So it has nothing to do with actual Jews or "Christian" as a membership, but rather who really proves to sacrifice their lives for the few to live. That act creates the only path thru Armageddon that results in a resurrection to everyone ever having lived. There will be no way that  the future world raised up from the dead will get away with saying that church that survived didnt need to exist, because all will have been raised by survivors, who raise others, and raise others, and raise others. I truly beleive this, I am just afraid to give a literal example.... yes I have stood before a grave and whispered my begging that Jehovah raise that body, knowing that he answers the loud fool, not the whisperer who is afraid of embarrassing those at the service. At Ararat I told the Islam hotel owner this and he chuckled and said No it takes special skill, you do not have this skill Richard. BUT I KNOW WHO DOES. And that's who I was praying too, the wife of Jesus in heaven.

[Moses]

Once the Lord returns there will not be Muslim, Jew, Christian , Buddhist, Bahai, Mormon etc.

Once the judgment takes place all that will remain is the believers in the Lord.

The righteous people will be rewarded the evil people will be punished.

Especially righteous people will be happy when Messiah comes, returns and when according to the prophecy Yahweh returns.

Elijah you make very serious accusation when  you state:

The fleshly Jews and the Christendom membership trying to merge will not work, they are not of the same kind other than their greed, and desire to be the Messiah and say Look what I do for God while many are killed whether in blood or in spirit or finances. T

I think you are speaking of minority and not majority of both groups.
As to Paul he was correct Gentiles are not under the Torah law only Hebrews are. So Gentiles can become christians without first converting to Judaism.
But not so for Jews they are to keep the Law and be ready to renew sacrificial system when new Jerusalem and new temple come.
Wile there will be no need for sin sacrifice as it is been accomplished long time ego for all of us there will be many other sacrifices and the Lord will again accept them lovingly.

[Elijah]

Scripture makes it very clear that The Law was done away with by Jesus not just for Christians who follow him, but for all people. it does not say that only Gentiles are not required to be Jews first, before they become Christians. That applies to anyone. A jew only makes himself bound to The Law by not accepting Jesus, he will be bound to that Law because he will forever wait for the Messiah to come if forever was allowed inthe wicked state of the world. Those who await an asnwer of anything but reject the answers that come, will forever wait for their answer. It is like waiting for an inventor of the airplane because you refuse to accept those who invented it. Thus is why any killer of Christ has been a killer of all christs, all inventors, all who truly lead instead of those voted to lead. The scriptures are very clear that there is blood of holy ones spilt throughout all history, back to Abel who was scientifically correct about what he predicted fire would do, and so was killed in jealousy, by the one who was wrong in prediction. Prediction should never entice anyone to kill when your prediction does not come true.