New Discovery: Halloween's Christmas connection

[Elijah]

While working on my current discovery that Mayan 360-day epoch date Kumku 8 in 3114 BC is Egyptian Epipi 27 (11-27), I have now found a Christmas connection to Halloween.

=== Epipi 27== (skip this to Halloween Christmas)
First to clarify Epipi 27 for those who didn't read that article, it is 11-27 but formerly 5-27 if you beleive Genesis when it swaps 180 days of months at Exodus so that the Flood is 2370 BC instead of 3090 BC. This 5-27 of the Egyptian calendar is mistaken for the 40 days after Noah's death in 2021 BC on Dec 24 (4-17) when then the spirit Xisuthros then claimed to be Noah for 40 days until the Chinese era for its 60-day calendar 2020 BC Feb 2 being 5-27 in the 360-day calendar. This date 5-27 is the day KiahTse (JiaZi) and falls in Year KiahTse on Feb 2 if traced back to 2157 BC and if claimed 480 Julian years earlier is 2637 BC Feb 2 in Chinese belief that it is 316 years after a 2953 BC Flood. Thus it locks in pretty well for Noah's death; even more so when you find out that his death on Dec 24 is Mayan new year Pop 0, and Dec 25 is Mayan Pop 1 sixteen days before Tot 1, showing how Mayan Pop is a shifted Egyptian Tot (Phoph = Thoth).

So now you see why 5-27 of the 360-day calendar whether 2637 BC or 2020 BC is suppose to be Noah's death and as Chinese 60-day day KiahTse (JiaZi) keeping 360-day constant it can be confused with the 5-27 of Egyptian calendar be it Epipi 27 (11-27) which the Maya say is Kumku 8. The first 360 days of Mayan Flood are from Kumku 8 to Kumku 3 falling on the day name 4 Ahau to 13 Ahau. The day cycle of 260 days starts with 1 imix and goes to 13 Ahau, so the fact that the 1st 360-day tun ENDS with the start of this day cycle in 3113 BC supports the connection. Persian Zoroastrian Aban 27 is Epipi 22 because Middle Kindom Epipi 27 was Aban 27 and shifted 5 days forward by the move of the five epagum days at the 1513 BC exodus.

== Halloween Christmas ==
The day before my Maui Halloween in 2005, I had discovered Noah's calendar new year was the origin of Halloween when 2031 BC Nov 1 was the new year to year 944. The significance of this year was the deaths of the first people to all get old and die at 240, a loss of 700 years since Noah was 940 that year. From this day forward no one would listen to Noah again because he didnt have the answer. So smart for the Flood they were angry he didnt know this one to answer. The Gilgamesh poem is very clear in its stupidity that it proves one thing true of the poem, that Gilgamesh wasnt listening to Noah and kept falling asleep when death for everyone was the issue. Similar to the night Jesus died.

I found this date by applying the 137 Julian year formula. That formula was discovered or inspired by the repetition of several Genesis men dying at 137. The math 720 years 180 leap days plus 137 adds up to the 857 years from Flood to Exodus. This led to my discovery that 2233 BC which set 720 years between Chinese (Roman) Flood 2953 BC and 1513 BC exodus was 137 Julian (139x 360 days) after the true Flood 2370 BC and so this 137 years is full SOTHIC cycle in a 360-day calendar. As I prepped my trip to Maui for Halloween, this discovery was given to me, and it is the only pagan Halloween that I ever costumed for as a Peacher in Amish dress condemning The End and declaring the source of Halloween in Noah's calendar and handing out my flyers that no one would take from me. (As my recent adventure to Ararat, there I chickened out too, they had a stage contest to pay $25 and perform in to win. And my excuse was my wallet was in the car. Yet i would have had a captive audience to my discovery of Halloween and a warning given out. I failed as I always do guilty of shamefully defying the spirit of God that drives me.) That discovery was that of the new year of Peleg's death in May 2030 BC fell on Nov 1 of 2031 BC and produced a Nov 2 all souls day new year for Babylon's 1st year in 1894 BC (Noah's year 944 to 1083).
It is this same 137 years (2370-2233 BC and 2031-1894 BC that also showed me the date of Noah's death and Chinese calendar connection to it, as 2157-2020 BC Feb 2 until I realized the 40 days back to Dec 24 and it being Mayan Pop 0. This gave me the reason why the Maya moved Thoth 1 back 16 days to be Pop 1. And it also connected why the Greeks claim Dec 24/25 is Noah's star of Koyak 24/25. Noah died on christmas eve as the second person to be claimed as Christ upon death (Peleg was the first, if you dont push Noah back 600 or 720 years).

== Egyptian Halloween == Thoth 1
This Halloween discovered for my 2005 Nov 1, had a long previous discovery back in the 80s by me that did not explain how Halloween preceded the glorification of Pharaoh or Joseph in 1738 BC. Joseph ruled the years of plenty from 1737-1730 BC. The significance of these 7 years is the fact they end the 12th dynasty when correcting the 206-213 years to having started in 1943 BC not 1991 BC (before I discovered Shulgi ruled those 48 years). In the Egyptian calendar Thoth was 7th month not 1st until Exodus. But it does not shift in the epagum days moved. (The shift Thoth makes exists in Zoroaster which I did not discover until Jehovah wanted me to see the 11 lunar dates of Artaxerxes. That Zoroaster shift prepared me to see that I had the solution to defy the attack that its internet poster threw at the WatchTower Society.)
So without Thoth shifting it lands on Nov 1 in 1738 BC as the dream preceding his appointment by Pharaoh. Halloween is the raising of the dead, it is also the raising of a dead society, giving life to it. That  fact was later confirmed in 2005 by the Halloween of the 360-day calendar used in Babylon's 1st year 1894 BC.

Now today, I have so many hundreds of dates to confirm all of Genesis that I decided to go back to listing them all, many of them being calculated again as I type. In doing so, I have a project that the spirit has nagged me to do, and that is the fact that Halloween preceded Joseph. Somewhere it switched over from 360 days to 365 days. They could easily claim it was created in 1738 BC to give either Pharaoh or Joseph glory as our savior by God for food. But there had to be hope for such a savior or that date would not have been picked. Yes it was 7th month like a alternate new year since 1770 BC (2256 AM) used in the Marduk calendar fitted to Egyptian 365-day dates. This is contrasted to the 360-day Marduk every 13 years which fell 124 years earlier for 1894 BC (2368-1894 BC is Noah's 602-1083 and so as 481 years is 37x 13 year Mars, stopping along the way as 2060 BC Nineveh built by Nimrod after Marduk temple the same year, and then Marduk Street in 2009 BC (52x 360 days).

So the Halloween could stay on Nov 1 only if they used Egyptian dates, and then leaped it every 4 years. Since the calendar began 2030 BC July 17 on Pamenot 1, the Halloween new year of 2031 BC (1-01-944) had no egyptian date until on Nov 1 of 2030 BC the date is Payni 18 on Noah's date 1-06-945 because 365 days had passed. This sets off the following dates for Halloween until Joseph.

The EGYPTIAN date for NOV 1 HALLOWEEN
2031 BC Payni 18 =Noahs 1-01-944
2030 BC Payni 18 =Noahs 1-06-945
2026 BC Payni 19 = NK.Payni 24
2022 BC Payni 20
2018 BC Payni 21
2014 BC Payni 22
2010 BC Payni 23
2009 BC Payni 24
1890 BC Epipi 23
1770 BC Mesor 23 = NK.Mesor 28
1750 BC Mesor 28 = NK.Epag 3
1742 BC Mesor 30 = NK.Epag 5
1738 BC Thoth 1  Pharaoh & Joseph (Jehovah & Jesus)
new discovery right here for 2009 BC
When New Kingdom calendar begins in 1513 BC the day Payni 24 becomes 10th month 24th day which formerly belonged to Koyak 24 the date Greeks say is Dec 24 in 2958 BC for the Flood. The Middle Kingdom version of Payni 24 (Zoroaster Aban 24) falls here in this right-now-discovered location of the Marduk year 2009 BC.

Both Christmas and Halloween share the 3-day prep & offering in death. The 3 days Koyak 23 & 24 & 25 are contrasted to Oct 31 & Nov 1 & 2. In Halloween the eve precedes the two dates. In Koyak, 23 was prep day, 24 was death, and 25 was raised up. When it drifted from May back to Jan 6-8 then 4-6, it took 1460 years to be our Dec 24/25. And being the eve of Noah's death to his rise the next day eliminated the 23rd. What I was writing about at this moment was my discovering that the 2030 BC Nov 1 as the original first anniversary of the previous Nov 1 in 2031 BC being MK.Payni 18 is NK.Payni 23; of which Payni 24 on Nov 2 could then be mistaken for 185 days later the date Koyak 24 (the May 5 known mass suicide of Ur to join Peleg in heaven). This verifies that the idea of a Christ new year for Armageddon or solution to Armageddon has tied the two dates of Halloween and Christmas together with the same expectation. As the Elijah who gathers the bride like John the Baptizer did, I was preceded by those who gathered her by the name of Charles Russell and Joseph Rutherford who likewise used Jubilees and like wise failed in their prophecies as the plan unfolded for true chronology versus Evolution. In me is fuliflled the fact that Elijah does not go to heaven. Elijah wrote a letter to the king after the funnel-cloud picked him up, and what is called chariots of fire did not pick him up but merely separated Elijah from Elisha. Elijah was then set down elsewhere, where he wrote his letter to the king later. So too Russell and Rutherford are in heaven with the calling. Thus God cannot allow Elijah to stay fulfilled as them because Elijah must be less than the bride, not part of it. But one of the things that seem most fated is that Russell was killed on Halloween (All Saints Eve) in 1916 AD after exactly 40 years of preaching from 1876-1916 AD when Barbour in 1876 printed 26-year old Russell's paper on 7 times (its last 40 years claimed as 1874-1914 AD). I too was 26 at my calling in 1983. Haha I just turned 53 so I guess I am not the 52-year sacrifice of the Maya.
But it would now seem that New Kingdom calculating Joseph's 1738 BC Thoth 1 November 1 back to NK.Payni 23 not only allows them to mistakenly presume the first Halloween was 2030 BC Nov 1/2 on Payni 23/24, but to see it as the Christmas suicide (10th month 24 th day) correctly being the calendar's first Koyak 24 on May 5 in 2029 BC. We know suicide is Koyak 24 not Payni 24 because Payni gets shifted and is really Payni 19. We also know the suicide is marked by the 3-day moon of the reborn Osiris becoming Horus the new born exalted  in the west over mother Venus Ishtar Isis. This is May 5 not Nov 1.

[notalent]

In me is fuliflled the fact that Elijah does not go to heaven. Elijah wrote a letter to the king after the funnel-cloud picked him up, and what is called chariots of fire did not pick him up but merely separated Elijah from Elisha. Elijah was then set down elsewhere, where he wrote his letter to the king later. So too Russell and Rutherford are in heaven with the calling. Thus God cannot allow Elijah to stay fulfilled as them because Elijah must be less than the bride, not part of it. But one of the things that seem most fated is that Russell was killed on Halloween (All Saints Eve) in 1916 AD after exactly 40 years of preaching from 1876-1916 AD when Barbour in 1876 printed 26-year old Russell's paper on 7 times (its last 40 years claimed as 1874-1914 AD). I too was 26 at my calling in 1983. Haha I just turned 53 so I guess I am not the 52-year sacrifice of the Maya.
But it would now seem that New Kingdom calculating Joseph's 1738 BC Thoth 1 November 1 back to NK.Payni 23 not only allows them to mistakenly presume the first Halloween was 2030 BC Nov 1/2 on Payni 23/24, but to see it as the Christmas suicide (10th month 24 th day) correctly being the calendar's first Koyak 24 on May 5 in 2029 BC. We know suicide is Koyak 24 not Payni 24 because Payni gets shifted and is really Payni 19. We also know the suicide is marked by the 3-day moon of the reborn Osiris becoming Horus the new born exalted  in the west over mother Venus Ishtar Isis. This is May 5 not Nov 1.

Should we ditch church and just study your bulletins?  Because you're exposing so many mistakes in the Bible (not actual chariots, just a tornado, and you're an Elijah not prophesied in the Bible, etc.)  It would have been nice if the Apostles had told us to keep a sharp eye out for your ministry, but I guess that's just another example of their negligence.  And not one of Them bothered with any exhortations to study the stars and their dates, since they are so necessary to the vital prediction of the end times to the day and the hour.  I consider this an inexcusable omission on their part.  I think it wise that we shelve our Bibles, because nothing of what you are saying is mentioned anywhere therein, much less hinted at (e.g. bride sacrifices).  It's is clearly out of date and shot through with mistakes.  OTOH, your bulletins are the real deal and up to date, since you were actually chosen from On High in our very lifetimes.  I mean, the responsibility of the extant Bride has been placed on your shoulders.  It's so historic and bound to be a critical chapter in the annals of the faithful -- read every bit as much as Genesis or Revelation.  We really need to get the word out.

[Elijah]

1) mistakes in the Bible (not actual chariots, just a tornado,
2) and you're an Elijah not prophesied in the Bible, etc.)

3) It would have been nice if the Apostles had told us...
4) And not one of Them bothered with any exhortations to study the stars and their dates, since they are so necessary to the vital prediction of the end times to the day and the hour. ...
5) I think it wise that we shelve our Bibles, ...
6) nothing of what you are saying is mentioned anywhere therein, much less hinted at (e.g. bride sacrifices).

1) quoting at 2 Kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. - it does not say the chariot took him, it says the whirlwind did. The fire was of of THE chariot separating them, but does not say it is the whirlwind. If anything it would seem he saw the chariot as if racing around him.

2) at Malchi 4:5 everyone knows Elijah must return, to end the world. The 2000 years from John The Baptizer to now is not sufficient to be total fulfillment. This is also why Jesus is not sufficient as a one-time Christ he declares he will return the exact same way, descend again and rise again. He descends as the birth of the church, he gathers it on earth in flesh, and takes it to heaven the same way he got there, the last ones sacrificed as he was. This is the only way that all can see it, and yet not see it because they deny it was Christ.

3) why do you say the apostles? Moses told us, so by their quoting Moses in some words, they in essence understood ALL of Moses who wrote....

4) at Genesis 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, - so here Moses claims God himself declared the stars must be used to mark the day and hour.

5) Satan said it be wise Eve eat the fruit, and you say it be wise we shelve our Bibles. So the intent of yours is bad in either direction; you either mean it and say shelf the Bibles, or you mock claiming that I am saying we should shelf them, and I said this not. You said it, not I. No it is not true; and we must definately do eat of every scripture; but it is also true because every utterance of God is in things around us speaking out to us beyond that written Bible. God's word is written in the flowers, it is written in the trees, it is written in stone, and in water, and in all things, they speak out to us saying far much more than look what a great God I am, or look how wise I am. All things he created are tangible like us so that we may see that what happens to these things are physical laws that also happens to us. That makes them spiritual words that warn us so that we can live in the flesh not die because we are flesh.

6) Nahor's death is covered over (evidence of suicide sacrifice), he lived 148 and his son lived 205; yet his son is reduced from 205 to 145 to look as if Nahor is natural aging. [2177-2029 BC and 2148-1943 BC.] It doesnt make Terah look as if in natural descent of longevity; it covers over the question of why did Nahor die 60 years before he ought to have. Yet it is the CALENDAR (Sothic exodus) as 137+720 that proves 857 years so that Terah was 205 +430 to exodus (not 400 as affliction, not 615 in Egypt, not 79 for Nahor. Acts 13:20 is a court case where in court he goes thru time and calendar by years because contrary to what you say, it DOES matter. I read and hear of no man at that court ridiculing him saying what does it matter 450 years to judges and 350 years of judges. Haran too returned to Ur to die; [2078-2029 BC at 49] yet to RETURN to die in his birth city means he had LEFT it (and built his own city Harran in 2048 BC at 30; his journey so far north was easily drafted at 18 to build Nineveh in 2060 BC]. So why did he come back home to die in Ur, so that Abram had to go up to Harran to watch over Lot. [1991 BC at 27 to be bi-residential 48 years] And why was Lot not brought to Ur (it is because Lot was 11 years older). Haran did not know his wife was pregnant when he returned to Ur in 2029 BC to die in mass suicide sacrifice. What is your reason for Isaac's sacrifice at age 25 in 1893 BC? Jewish tradition says he was 25. Babylon declared itself the resurrection of society on Nov 2 of 1894 BC, the 360-day new year, 1-01-1083. [1894 BC Nov 1= MK Epipi 22 =NK Epipi 27; note this is new kingdom 11-27 easily confused with Noahs 360-day 11-27 being Chinese Feb 2 in 1437 BC which claims their calendar was 1200 years earlier in 2637 BC. All this is their attempt to declare a Venus of 3-27 returned as it was in the Flood]

==The whole educational world and its schools are about mockery ==
Schools are temples to collect money in the claim that its teacher priests are educating us. All business, and churches, and schools, and webpages either volunteer what they feel they know, or they strive to fund raise. IT is about money. So slam others as liars to be on top, or do it with zeal for the mere reason you see yours is the truth. But do you kill to do it!
Isaac was offered up because Abram was mocked that the whole world could be saved by his own awesome knowledge of truth rather than thru a cooperative city like Babylon and its schools. But when told how will he help anyone if and when he dies, he has no son he said to carry on these truths; then he put faith in someone else who said clean yourself by cutting you dirty skin off as the cure. And so he obtained his son whose mother was not like Hagar teaching Egyptian concepts of God. But then the same applied to Isaac that applied to Abram. Look your son is single and childless (like Jesus). How will you save the world if your son dies. Sacrifice your son and then see if the world can be saved. At least the Marduk of Babylon is just an idol to keep track of Mars as a calendar to year 6000 by having a good fun party on those days. Abram sacrificed his son to excuse THEIR ERROR. And he put faith that a different alternative would occur if there was a God. So someone showed up as a messenger and they had shoved a sheep in the bush for Abram. He need not be told whether he is an angel from heaven, nor need he be told how the sheep got there. It is Satan who lies by teaching that honesty means expose all things and do it clearly without parable or you are the liar and devil. Satan teaches this because Jesus did not teach this, Jesus did not do this. Jesus spoke in metaphor without sinning by it. Metaphor is not sin. Rebecca did not sin by doing what her eyes saw, prove that Jehovah or proper results always occurred with Jacob not Esau. Adam blamed Eve, but Isaac said this must be of Jehovah, so I cannot give the blessing to Esau that I gave Jacob. He accepted Jehovah the alternative method.

I am flattered you think me an example. I am not the Christ-bride example. I sin greatly. Thank you for honoring me with what is hers, but I cannot accept it. I am just flattered that you think me worthy of what will happen to her, and what happened to Jesus. Sad that you are the one who would do this though. Go do what you seek to do; here I hand you the bread and then also the wine for dipping. You feel I am self appointed as YOUR keeper. So who appointed YOU as my keeper. When does my blood lay spilt on the ground crying out in the eyes of the world watching.

The last Elijah foretold
(thelastelijah@aol.com)

and yet behold there will be Elijah in 1000 years
(and though Elijah be there awake, and John the Baptizer be there, and I be there, he will be yet another Elijah)
 

[Elijah]

Should we ditch church and just study your bulletins? 

If this was also said to Charles Taze Russell then the fact you say it again makes me a successor of him.

Though I will agree no doubt it was said to Joseph Smith too, and England's Martin Luther too, and any other who came. The answer is in what Jesus said to let the wheat and the darnil weeds grow together rather than nip the problem in the bud and be guilty of killing baby wheat. The whole world had a bud to nip to prevent all this with Eve or Adam or Cain or Abel. God was in care of the dish and he let Satan have it. Is he guilty? It will not go beyond what he cannot change and restore. Where is your faith that you must stop the worlds destruction by destroying others yourself in war and punishments and laws and governing. God ruling by government is a relative perspective. The seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent refers to offspring that goes bad versus those that go good, and the type of war between them, one a murderer, the other sacrificial. I see what Jesus said, not to kill others so quickly to then find out you misundertsood. But I have no church. None gathered. I tried. No one wanted it. So how can you join it. Yet is that more powerful then to you in that rather than say should we quit our church and go to yours, you say read my bulletins as if I am the pulpit, the only pulpit. If I had gathered a church, then you would declare my misleading as being even greater. A rally of corruption. There would be people you could say are members misled by me and my words.

[notalent]

1) mistakes in the Bible (not actual chariots, just a tornado,
2) and you're an Elijah not prophesied in the Bible, etc.)

3) It would have been nice if the Apostles had told us...
4) And not one of Them bothered with any exhortations to study the stars and their dates, since they are so necessary to the vital prediction of the end times to the day and the hour. ...
5) I think it wise that we shelve our Bibles, ...
6) nothing of what you are saying is mentioned anywhere therein, much less hinted at (e.g. bride sacrifices).

1) quoting at 2 Kings 2:11
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind. - it does not say the chariots took him, it says the whirlwind did. The fire was of two chariots separating him.

One chariot, it says.

Now which chariot would YOU throw out, or do you have the freedom to draw a picture of itty bitty chariots so he can have a foot on each one.

2) at Malchi 4:5 everyone knows Elijah must return, to end the world.

Nope.  It says he will come before the Great and Terrible Day.  There is no end of world mentioned.  He will turn the fathers to the sons and the sons to the fathers. No bride sacrifice is mentioned there.  Again, the Bible is clearly wrong, while you are up-to-date.

The 2000 years from John The Baptizer to now is not sufficient to be total fulfillment. This is also why Jesus is not sufficient as a one-time Christ he declares he will return the exact same way, descend again and rise again. He descends as the birth of the church, he gathers it on earth in flesh, and takes it to heaven the same way he got there, the last ones sacrificed as he was.

The part about them being sacrificed isn't mentioned anywhere.  So again, the Bible is defective.  You are now the oracle people should heed.  You're the 13th apostle.  That's a nice Biblical number.

This is the only way that all can see it, and yet not see it because they deny it was Christ.

3) why do you say the apostles? Moses told us, so by their quoting Moses in some words, they in essence understood ALL of Moses who wrote....

They didn't bother mentioning these things in the letters to the churches or the general epistles.

4) at Genesis 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, - so here Moses claims God himself declared the stars must be used to mark the day and hour.

I get the days and seasons and years.  I don't get the parts you added about the end of the world.  Again, the omissions are doing us a disservice, now that you're here to tell us all the things not written in the Bible that could fill all the libraries of the world.

5) Satan said it be wise Eve eat the fruit, and you say it be wise we shelve our Bibles. So the intent of yours is bad in either direction; you either mean it and say shelf the Bibles, or you mock claiming that I am saying we should shelf them, and I said this not. You said it, not I. No it is not true; and we must definately do eat of every scripture; but it is also true because every utterance of God is in things around us speaking out to us beyond that written Bible. God's word is written in the flowers, it is written in the trees, it is written in stone, and in water, and in all things, they speak out to us saying far much more than look what a great God I am, or look how wise I am. All things he created are tangible like us so that we may see that what happens to these things are physical laws that also happens to us. That makes them spiritual words that warn us so that we can live in the flesh not die because we are flesh.

But the Bible says that it alone is sufficient to furnish man to every good work.  Clearly this isn't so, because if we just stick to it, we would ignore your words which are all the stuff not covered in the Bible, like the day and hour of the end and that a worldwide flood is coming again because the rainbow covenant is a scam and we need to flee to mountains 6000 feet above sea level and the Bride must be killed and stuff like that. 

6) Nahor's death is covered over (evidence of suicide sacrifice)

See?  Yet another Bible omission.

, he lived 148 and his son lived 205; yet his son is reduced from 205 to 145 to look as if Nahor is natural aging. [2177-2029 BC and 2148-1943 BC.] It doesnt make Terah look as if in natural descent of longevity; it covers over the question of why did Nahor die 60 years before he ought to have. Yet it is the CALENDAR (Sothic exodus) as 137+720 that proves 857 years so that Terah was 205 +430 to exodus (not 400 as affliction, not 615 in Egypt, not 79 for Nahor. Acts 13:20 is a court case where in court he goes thru time and calendar by years because contrary to what you say, it DOES matter. I read and hear of no man at that court ridiculing him saying what does it matter 450 years to judges and 350 years of judges.

He's quoting the Septuagint, which reckons the time spans differently than the Masoretic text.  This tells me that the exact dates (he says "about 450" years, not "precisely 450 years") aren't the issue.  He's citing the layman's Bible of the times, which was the Greek translation.

Only time spans are mentioned, not specific dates like you.  Don't try to defend the Bible by equating what it is saying with vague approximations with your specific Julian dates.  Give yourself some credit.

Haran too returned to Ur to die; [2078-2029 BC at 49] yet to RETURN to die in his birth city means he had LEFT it (and built his own city Harran in 2048 BC at 30; his journey so far north was easily drafted at 18 to build Nineveh in 2060 BC]. So why did he come back home to die in Ur, so that Abram had to go up to Harran to watch over Lot. [1991 BC at 27 to be bi-residential 48 years] And why was Lot not brought to Ur (it is because Lot was 11 years older). Haran did not know his wife was pregnant when he returned to Ur in 2029 BC to die in mass suicide sacrifice. What is your reason for Isaac's sacrifice at age 25 in 1893 BC? Jewish tradition says he was 25. Babylon declared itself the resurrection of society on Nov 2 of 1894 BC, the 360-day new year, 1-01-1083. [1894 BC Nov 1= MK Epipi 22 =NK Epipi 27; note this is new kingdom 11-27 easily confused with Noahs 360-day 11-27 being Chinese Feb 2 in 1437 BC which claims their calendar was 1200 years earlier in 2637 BC. All this is their attempt to declare a Venus of 3-27 returned as it was in the Flood]

==The whole educational world and its schools are about mockery ==
Schools are temples to collect money in the claim that its teacher priests are educating us. All business, and churches, and schools, and webpages either volunteer what they feel they know, or they strive to fund raise. IT is about money. So slam others as liars to be on top, or do it with zeal for the mere reason you see yours is the truth. But do you kill to do it!
Isaac was offered up because Abram was mocked that the whole world could be saved by his own awesome knowledge of truth rather than thru a cooperative city like Babylon and its schools. But when told how will he help anyone if and when he dies, he has no son he said to carry on these truths; then he put faith in someone else who said clean yourself by cutting you dirty skin off as the cure. And so he obtained his son whose mother was not like Hagar teaching Egyptian concepts of God. But then the same applied to Isaac that applied to Abram. Look your son is single and childless (like Jesus). How will you save the world if your son dies. Sacrifice your son and then see if the world can be saved. At least the Marduk of Babylon is just an idol to keep track of Mars as a calendar to year 6000 by having a good fun party on those days. Abram sacrificed his son to excuse THEIR ERROR. And he put faith that a different alternative would occur if there was a God. So someone showed up as a messenger and they had shoved a sheep in the bush for Abram. He need not be told whether he is an angel from heaven, nor need he be told how the sheep got there. It is Satan who lies by teaching that honesty means expose all things and do it clearly without parable or you are the liar and devil. Satan teaches this because Jesus did not teach this, Jesus did not do this. Jesus spoke in metaphor without sinning by it. Metaphor is not sin. Rebecca did not sin by doing what her eyes saw, prove that Jehovah or proper results always occurred with Jacob not Esau. Adam blamed Eve, but Isaac said this must be of Jehovah, so I cannot give the blessing to Esau that I gave Jacob. He accepted Jehovah the alternative method.

I am flattered you think me an example. I am not the Christ-bride example. I sin greatly. Thank you for honoring me with what is hers, but I cannot accept it. I am just flattered that you think me worthy of what will happen to her, and what happened to Jesus. Sad that you are the one who would do this though. Go do what you seek to do; here I hand you the bread and then also the wine for dipping. You feel I am self appointed as YOUR keeper. So who appointed YOU as my keeper. When does my blood lay spilt on the ground crying out in the eyes of the world watching.

The last Elijah foretold
(thelastelijah@aol.com)

and yet behold there will be Elijah in 1000 years
(and though Elijah be there awake, and John the Baptizer be there, and I be there, he will be yet another Elijah)

See, another prophesy.  I think Revelation 22:18 was an ill-advised entry, for see how many things may be added that were missing.  But again, they got so many things wrong anyway...

[Elijah]

Retraction noted. and corrected. My original answer removed and modified - The fire was of THE chariot separating them, but does not say the chariot is the whirlwind. If anything it would seem he saw the chariot as if racing around him to create the whirlwind that lifted him. (As I have frequently said, some fires come against us and refine us like a sword.)

[Elijah]

The part about them being sacrificed isn't mentioned anywhere.  So again, the Bible is defective.  You are now the oracle people should heed.  You're the 13th apostle.  That's a nice Biblical number.

You fail to read a bible that says Judas the 12th was replaced by casting a lot to replace Judas the 12th. That makes a 13th name on the list of apostles, and then we have Paul chosen as an apostle, or did he replace the TEMP  chosen by the Lottery. As for the sacrifice, the many years that a school-teacher priesthood was attempted with the son of Moses did not work either; that is why scripture briefly says Jehovah the word of Jehovah said let me make your son the priests and let all Israel die here in Sinai. Yet his brother Aaron's sons succeeded in what Moses couldnt teach his own son. God did not say this on one date or moment, but rather he was saying this by the son of Moses making a priesthood... one that didnt work. It was MANY years to see what the word of God turned out to be. Jewish tradition fills in all the details, the mountain of that priesthood etc. But Moses simply cuts many years of God's word down to a single phrase of Moses say do not destroy these people or the world will say thats why you took them out of Egypt was to kill them all. It is so much better that your world says God is bloodthristy killling all Canaan than to say he killed the ones he saved. As is you say the Maya were peaceful and good and that it was Catholics whose God said slaughter them all and take over.

This is the only way that all can see it, and yet not see it because they deny it was Christ.
3) why do you say the apostles? Moses told us, so by their quoting Moses in some words, they in essence understood ALL of Moses who wrote....

They didn't bother mentioning these things in the letters to the churches or the general epistles.

Again you ignore Moses and continue on your apostles as greater than Moses so as to nullify Moses. Then why bother quoting the Bible form Moses.

4) at Genesis 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, - so here Moses claims God himself declared the stars must be used to mark the day and hour.

I get the days and seasons and years.  I don't get the parts you added about the end of the world.  Again, the omissions are doing us a disservice, now that you're here to tell us all the things not written in the Bible that could fill all the libraries of the world. [/quote]
What is the END if it isnt a day and hour. Those are the words YOU quote when you speak of the end, you say day and hour, as the BIble does too. And when have you not known that seasons will determine you starving or living. Or when Jesus said NOT by bread alone, do you change that to NOT by bread at all.

But the Bible says that it alone is sufficient to furnish man to every good work.  Clearly this isn't so, because if we just stick to it, we would ignore your words which are all the stuff not covered in the Bible, like the day and hour of the end and that a worldwide flood is coming again because the rainbow covenant is a scam and we need to flee to mountains 6000 feet above sea level and the Bride must be killed and stuff like that.

It is YOU alone speaking for we who should ignore MY words because YOU do not see them as God's words. Yet you see your own words as being all God's in whatever way YOU read it as. You claiming the chariot created no tornado lifting Elijah.

6) Nahor's death is covered over (evidence of suicide sacrifice)

See?  Yet another Bible omission.[/quote]
Do you deny, the Bible omits whales off of Noah's ark? You are the one dividing things as holy and not holy. You are the one seeking to curse anyone with knowledge to lead.

[quote author=Elijah link=topic=752.msg5850#msg5850
He's quoting the Septuagint, which reckons the time spans differently than the Masoretic text.  This tells me that the exact dates (he says "about 450" years, not "precisely 450 years") aren't the issue.  He's citing the layman's Bible of the times, which was the Greek translation. [/quote]
The Greek Septuagint is not the only to say Terah lived 145 years instead of 205. The Jewish Seder Olam does not use the Septuagint yet it uses 145. You praise yourself GREATLY as knowing what you know LITTLE of. Assess yourself in the mirror.

Only time spans are mentioned, not specific dates like you.  Don't try to defend the Bible by equating what it is saying with vague approximations with your specific Julian dates.  Give yourself some credit.

Moses says they left Egypt to pass over the Red Sea into a different world on the same date that Abram left to pass over the Euphrates in a different world, and says the 430th year. THAT and THOSE are exact dates. The 450 years about is 451 from 1918-1467 BC, birth of Isaac to declaration of borders. But the King James says 450 years of Judges, this is not from the Septuagint but strictly an Authorized mistake that caused the 40-year Advent of 1844-1874 AD and 1874-1914 AD. The whole critical scoffing of all these new religions ignores that it is Jesus sorting and collecting a church to survive by obedience not by each standing saved without ark, or without Moses leading, or without Lot leading. ALL who stand still will definately die soon.

See, another prophesy.  I think Revelation 22:18 was an ill-advised entry, for see how many things may be added that were missing.  But again, they got so many things wrong anyway...

Any man who says these words you say, echo as the same words said by those standing around Jesus, saying what you say to me, saying these words to Jesus. I do agree that such words are also said to those who are truly wrong. But then you do not learn what Jesus said. He was saying be careful or you might kill those who are saints. And then he proved you would kill him.

[notalent]

Any man who says these words you say, echo as the same words said by those standing around Jesus, saying what you say to me, saying these words to Jesus. I do agree that such words are also said to those who are truly wrong. But then you do not learn what Jesus said. He was saying be careful or you might kill those who are saints. And then he proved you would kill him.

See, putting yourself on the same level as Jesus only proves we should listen to your new revelations and shelve the Bible's obsolete and inaccurate ones.  It's certainly easier than attempting impossible reconciliations of what you say with the Bible, and since you almost never quote it anyway, just some vague paraphrases with included corrections, like the omission in Micah of bride sacrifice.  See we'd never get that idea from the Bible.  That's why your bulletins are so important.  We would never have heard of bride sacrifice or a imagined a new world-wide flood could be possible without you.  I'm putting together a shopping list for a mountain retreat to save my bacon from the coming deluge -- all thanks to you.  You're a God-send.

[Elijah]

Micah. Where did I quote Micah?
Paraphrase only for my quotes; ah yes I recall the grandmother of Jesus put the Bible in chapters and verses so that he quoted these chapters and verses by numbers, never paraphrased it himself.
And ah yes, impossible reconciliations are all mine and never done by Black Sea Flood, or Nile Delta Sea passovers, etc.
I forgot. You should be like Jesus too; you don't wish to be; you declare it sacrilege to do so, which is the human excuse for sin, and why people wish to worsen not better, unless of course they ignore the Bible and just better it by doing things their way... not God's. The way that works is God's way, and God's way is the way that works. If it works, it's God, if it doesn't then it is not God. Then of course the viewpoint of whether it really worked... agreed since 7 years of plenty of stripping the same mineral elements with one crop caused the guaranteed 7 year result. Hello, that's what Sabbath year was about, but crop rotation is the cure or atonement or sacrifice that cures it.
Abram (27) marrying his half-sister (17) in 1991 BC, it says he did, was not incest until Moses declared it incest in 1513 BC. But God declared it incest by high rate defects increasing from 1991-1513 BC. God does change in perspective, though he never changes at all, just as Jesus did leave forever at death like he said he would though he never leaves at all, and though he came back for 40 days in flesh. You find fault with me when I do as the Bible does and see in perspective.