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« Reply #15 on: Oct 31, 2008, 08:17 AM »

What a Coincidence !!!! :):):)
My thesis was :  The Empress Judith second wife of Louis the Pious.

So i know here descendants well on paper.And all Carolingian history.
She had 2 children

I. Chales the Bald King of the Western  Francia  and later Emperor'

II.A daughter Gisela who married the Marquis Eberhard of Friuli .
As Friuli is North Eastern  Italy my guess Sekhmet  is descendent from .

Gisela


Their is an society in America for descendants of Charlemagne.
And how interesting the Carolingians called themself
The New Israel.

And Charlemagne in his court Academy was named David !!!
He was the new David

And Louis the Pious was the new Salomon.

O I could give (and like ) you more  litterature and information.

After all being a mediaevist my heart rejoyces .


Turanclancath :)



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« Reply #16 on: Oct 31, 2008, 11:38 AM »

Origin of the Hadiths are separate from the Qu’ran, their origin lays in the actions and non-reveled sayings of Mohammed (pbuh).  They carry almost as much weight in Islamic nations as does Qu’ranic verses, but not as much.

The origin of the Qu’ran
It was uncommon for Mohammed (pbuh) to write down the revelations that the angel Gabriel gave him.  Others once he became a real leader of the new religion would copy his revelations.  The Qu’ran was compiled during the first caliphate of Mohammed’s (pbuh) father-in-law Abu Bakr.  He ordered the writing down of all of the Prophet’s (pbuh) writings.  Under the caliphate of Uthman, the third to hold the position, the writings became standardized.  When Caliph Uthman standardized the Qu’ran, he ordered that all other copies be destroyed.  In order that no division should exist in the Prophet’s (pbuh) revelations such as existed in the Christian and Jewish texts of the 7th century A.D. 

In the early 1970’s in Yemen there was a discovery of various Qu’ranic styles that did not follow the standardization of Caliph Uthman.  There is very little study of them known, still today.


There is a story of how the followers of the Prophet (pbuh) feared,trembled, doubting their belief in the Prophet (pbuh) upon his death.  It was, Caliph Alu Bakr his father-in-law, that challenged them to hold true to their faith.  To carry on, the fact that he was the grandfather of the Prophet’s only living child, had nothing to with it.  It was his great-grandsons that caused the divide between Sunnie Muslims (Arabia) and the Shiits’ of the Mediterranean coast and Iran.


The (pbuh) notation after mentioning Mohammed, The Prophet means Peace be upon Him, is considered a sign of respect and truly devote Muslims will say the words when they say his name or title.


My dear Sir Turanclancath, thank you for the history :)  It could be as you say : )  I sure would enjoy reading more.  Thank you!
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 02, 2008, 01:12 PM »

I read in a biography of Mohammed this story.

Aisha, the daughter of Abu Bakr and the last wife of Mohammed, was complaining about Mohammed in front of her father.  Abu Bakr asked how she dared to speak of the prophet in a disparaging way.  Aisha said the other wives did it too.  Abu Bakr got all huffy and went over to where Mohammed's wives lived.  He chewed them out, and they told him to mind his own business!  Abu Bakr told this to Mohammed, and Mohammed just laughed and laughed.
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 26, 2009, 04:29 AM »

What a Coincidence !!!! :):):)
My thesis was :  The Empress Judith second wife of Louis the Pious.

So i know here descendants well on paper.And all Carolingian history.
She had 2 children

I. Chales the Bald King of the Western  Francia  and later Emperor'

II.A daughter Gisela who married the Marquis Eberhard of Friuli .
As Friuli is North Eastern  Italy my guess Sekhmet  is descendent from .

Gisela


Their is an society in America for descendants of Charlemagne.
And how interesting the Carolingians called themself
The New Israel.

And Charlemagne in his court Academy was named David !!!
He was the new David

And Louis the Pious was the new Salomon.

O I could give (and like ) you more  litterature and information.

After all being a mediaevist my heart rejoyces .


Turanclancath :)



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« Reply #19 on: Jul 26, 2009, 04:31 AM »

The sooner ALL Religion is wiped off this Earth the better.
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 26, 2009, 05:36 AM »

The sooner ALL Religion is wiped off this Earth the better.

This is said in many a forum by many an anti-religious person.  But judging by the attitudes and behaviors exhibited by such as express the sentiment, it's clear the Earth would be no better without religion than with.
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