My theory on the Quran.

[kattey]

What I know about the Quran:  I read the histories of Historian Will and Ariel Durant which covered the beginnings of Islam.  I believe the Durants were the last historians to freely dig into ancient archives in the Middle East before they were shut to outsiders.  I've also read scholarly articles pertaining to the Quran., and  the Atlantic magazine published a great article about it several years ago.

The story goes that when Mohammed received the visions from the Angel Gabrial, his followers would memorize or write down verses on twigs and leaves.  Although it's claimed that the Quran is perfect in its verse, one of Mohammed's Companians was killed in battle before he could add his memorized verses to a draft.  This information was gathered up as much as possible, and a version of the Quran was put together about 800 CE.  It turned out that various scribes wrote different versions, so many were destroyed by the early Muslims (kind of like Iranaeous did with early writings on Jesus).

Scholars have commented on the Quran saying verses in various suras (chapters) which are the opposites of each other, from do not harm even a tree  to kill all the infidels.  The Quran is also backward in order.  The first Suras are at the end of the Quran while the last Suras are at the front.

My theory is after Mohammed died, warrior clerics and leaders added many of the warlike verses.  Abu Bakr, who took over after Mohammed died, (he was the father of Aisha, Mohammed's last wife) urged Muslim warriors to conquer lands in the name of Allah, although there is a verse in the Quran that says fight only in self defense.  The warriors were gung-ho because they could loot and plunder and bring the goods back for their families.  For a people that had so little and suffered so much trying to make a living in the desert, this was a great boon.  Will Durant said the Arabs were crazed from the heat to begin with.  Durant also credits Mohammed with taking a broke down scattered people and uniting them and giving them a religion they could understand.  So he views Mohammed as a great man.

As for the order of the Quran, I believe the verses were reversed so that the war-like verses would be the first Muslims would know when the Imams preached to them.

Muslims must memorize the Quran, but I don't think it sinks in, because they never seem to understand the verse said by Allah that Israel is the Land of the Jews.  They use our Angel Gabrial as their conduit from Allah, who says salacious things about Jews and Christians, which we know that Gabrial would never say!

How will Muslims explain Arabia's ancient history, which Muslims are starting to know, when Muslim clerics say there was no Arab history before Mohammed? 

[kattey]

Archaeologists have found an inscription on stone located just outside of Saudi Arabia, they won't say where, that was written by an early Muslim who gives his name, praises Allah with another line or two.  This inscription precedes the writing in the Quran.

The inscription uses diacritical marks which enables the writer to say precisely what he means.  This brings up a question scholars have asked for decades.  Why weren't diacritical marks used in the Quran since they already existed?  Maybe they were excluded deliberately so clerics would have various ways to interpretate it.  Guess we were not meant to know if it spoke of virgins or white grapes.

Scholars have said the early Muslims destroyed all inscriptions they could find to further their theology that no Arabs existed before Muslims.  They missed one.  There may be more.

[Elijah]

Maybe the writer of the Quran was rebellious to new grammatical rules of clarity.

I did not know the Kuran is 800 AD not 622 AD.
I always note that in all cultures the same years pop up that would be year 6000 in various chronologies. Such years are seen in advance before political behavior is then induced by such years. The year 800 CE is induced by a 5200 BC Adam which has a Flood in either 2242 AM as 2958 BC or a Flood in 2947 BC with 2256 AM being Noah's grandson after the Flood year. The year 800 AD is found not just in Islam defying Catholic but also in Mayan culture of rebuilding. (Another set of years are at the 775 AD being 1200 year Venus before 1975 AD; and because the 3744 year calendar to year 6000 is divided by 936 (or 949x 360 days) we will also find revivals in year 936 AD. However, the year 622 AD is based on a 5378 BC Adam plus 2256 AM to 3122 BC Flood and 340 years to a 2782 BC egyptian calendar and a count from Flood of 3744 years to 622 AD. Muslim events of 654 AD are based on a 3090 BC egyptian Flood, and Muslim events of 684 AD are based on a Japanese Flood of 3060 BC. All dates of the Era 622 AD being 8 years before the same events in a Mayan timeline, (before failure of 52 year king Pacal 630-682 AD) resulted in the known 5200 year cycle. By the way, people should be told that it is not a 5125 year cycle but 5200 years of 360 days from Flood 3114 BC, also equal to 13 of 400 years, which is 13 of 144,000 days. The day stars of Revelation are not the last of 144,000 days but the last saints of 144,000 chosen. This is why Joseph Smith and american scholars tinkered with the idea the Maya may be lost Jews. Do note that Nicolas Cage's movie knowing shows the stone or pebble in the hand of the futures two saints.... the new Adam and new Eve (two children). That stone is actually the symbol of each person chosen to be of that bride of Jesus (144,000).

Back to the topic of expected dates for end of world such as Mayan 630 AD as year 6000. Yes I am aware of Pacal being king before 630 AD when he was chosen as the Christ Leader, but this is also true of France king Charlemagne whose coronation likewise was mere religious political ploy to put the name of God's kingdom on the Church so as to subdue the rising ones who expected Jesus to overthrow the that church as false. In doing so, the Christians used Eusebius as the timeline from 5200 BC. The book Visions of The End says Catholic church assigned that same chore to Beatus if Liebana about 786 AD (3744 years after 2958 BC as Flood and 5227 BC as Adam) who then mistakenly totals up 5227 years from 5200 BC to Jesus (his birth). And I can see this is what resulted in a church of 800 AD who then says no errror was made because it is 27 years to his baptism in 27 AD. The fall of 3rd dynasty Ur was known to be 1900 BC (debated as 2029 BC), and as such Babylon was seen as 300 years to 1600 BC. Believing the venus tablets to date to 1600 BC as year 3600 creates the 5200 BC Adam whose year 2256 AM must then be 2945 BC unless converted to 2242 AM as 2958 BC. Both rely on 2009 BC as year 3192 AM.

[Moses]

The Syrian Christians use "Allah" in their bible .

Al = The
Ilah - God

Allah = The God in Arabic.

[Elijah]

You are saying this:
Al = (The) + Ilah (God), then = Allah (The God)
but you cannot say that because of this ....

not because anyone says you are wrong but because
culture will split and whether you are argue who is right or wrong it still then creates new ways.

All sumerian Al and El is always god, and when el ends a Hebrew name be it Daniel or Michael or Babel.
El- this and El-that are the title god in the sumerian names before the Flood of ten angels who came from heaven.
But I agree with you that el-this and el-that in Latin languages is the word THE. THE person is not a person, it is a specific entity and in those days meant high status thus god. The kinglist at Sargon thus says "so who is king and who is not" (everyone is a king in some way or other).
THe best example I found this year was looking thru Utube TV docs that were on Hitites in Turkey as one of the four kings or four quarters. They assumed the language was too confusing as they were looking for Shemetic connection until one line read that the person be allowed to eat food and drink water. The word drink is agua and the word for water is watar. As you can see the Latins do not say agua for drinking but rather the water itself is now called agua.

So people do not teach and explain from parent to child, and we destroy our words every ten years that passes. We say say show me i want to be shown and in books 300 years ago it says shew me i want to be shewn.

So there is no issue to make... the word el means the, and the word el also means god.

Another example i found is that the Khali Yuga is a ratio of 4 to 1 of the Dvapara Yuga (Duo Para are two words that both mean two) and Treta yuga as three, and Krta yuga which means Quarta.... and if you look at a Saudi map it sas ythe desert is a Kali or an empty quarter. Yet the word Kali is being used to mean an AGE when in fact all for ages use the same word YUGA. Scripture says what is good you say is bad and what is bad you say is good. This is not just a case of reversing morals, but people are angry and hurt and rebel and they reverse anything and everything.

And the know-it-alls who want to rule will say no its not.
Calendar and astronomy prove bible dates which say Narmer became Menes the same year Noah was referred to as Manu, (Mene or Mena meaning the same as Man-Nu).
Granted new words are created like
abomination = Obama-Nation

but so too they argue that Babel means gate of gods (God),
not confusion, or they defy its having evolved into english babble.

[Moses]

Syria christians before Islam in their New Testament in Arabic and Aramaic call god - Allah.

The God

This is simply in Arabic the God.

More than that

The letters A, I and E interchange when they are in the beginning or end of the name.

For example in Hebrew  ABRAHAM  =   in Arabic IBRAHIM you se how A in Hebrew is I in Arabic?

For Example ISRAEL in Hebrew is in Arabic  ISRAIL
Now AL=THE   Il = EL  AH= YAH(JEHOVAH)  = The God Yah IS you know HALELU-YAH = HALELU-YAHVEH - Parse YAHVEH - Jehovah.

Also Allha = ELOHIM.

Syrian Christians call Elijah - ELIAS. 

[Elijah]

I have never heard that in Alah the words mean
Al (God) ah (Yah)
this was why I brought up the fact that Hitite
words agua watar means drink water;
that agua means to drink
agua does not mean water.
Here is where the cross-over in confusion begins.
If all languages were ONE, then a connection has to exist between words that are compiled with letters to the west,
and to the east where each letter is a whole word.
In that we then have four letters Y and H and W and H.
In reality it is a consonant V or consonant U because our double U is just that, it is two consonants V or two consonants U or two vowels U which become a consonant. Perhaps then we should just say YHVH instead of YHWH but in many lands the V is still a vowel not consonant. We have buildings that say VNITED STATES and COVRTHOVSE.
The life and death of Jesus warns us that the biggest changes for the worst are done by those trying to change all society and all culture into whats best for everyone like a big brother. And in doing so calls the beauracracy as being the killer of the saints. When it says in Revelation that Jehovah gathers all to Armageddon he does so with the truth of scientific invention which leads to material wants thru greedy commericalism. The moon project actually became satellite communication reality. We have peaked... my favorite sci-fi on androids is The Quester Tapes (YouTube) which ends up at a fake Hollywood Mount Ararat.

Because each letter is a consonant that cannot be pronounced without a vowel whether you wish to say L i pronounced as EL or as LA, or the letter M as EM or as MA, the letter R as AR or as RA, we cross over into error when we had more consonants for a symbol of one consonant. This revealed with Ya Ha Wa Ha defined as Yah Ha Wah Ha. By adding an H at the end of Ya and Wah we create confusion in the four words. This is why your AL-AH might be AL-HA instead of AL- (y)AH. So while latin languages say that EL means THE so that EL-THEOS means the god. Other languages are taking HA (Hebrew) and HO (Greek) as the word THE, such as HA-THEOS and HO-THEOS for the god. This is why I hold the claim that Osiris means Ho-Sirius or Ho-Saros or Ho-Sar because it definately connects various false chronologies with the true chronology for a span of 291 years as 3600 new moons. Ho Sar means The Leader and it is a calendar word for a new cycle. It began with a 3600-day sar of ten years.

So now if Al-Yah (The Yah) is The Jah to some languages, but to other languages is Al-Ha (God-The) it falls into place merely as additional supporting evidence with everything that has happened to languages. The reversals. It needs not stand on its own, the whole world and all languages show this has happened to all words. In this way some are correct that Allah is God and has no connection to Yehowah. That a word can have opposite contrary meanings Yehowah itself has being Que Sera Que Sera, people do nto understand that fate refers to outcome of actions being proven by general realities destine to occur as specific outcomes for specific actions which thus requires human responsibility or the proper atitude to properly respond with your ability to make what happens or prevent what happens. Instead the same word fate or Jehovah is used to say everything good and bad happens as God destines it in his full control in every detail. So we have people who think babies are chewed up by dogs to God's glory for some divine purpose or lesson. Yeh Right! The lesson is you let the dogs do it by your negligence. You can see then why this led to a post-Flood world where everyone would be liable to capital punishment where if one family disagreed that a return death was proper (soul for soul), then the whole family just goes over to kill the other whole family and that's war. Nothing was resolved by that method in 4400 years, was it. Today (since then) all the children form one land is forced to be an army to kill all the children of another land; and the king no longer directly leads them to die with them.

So then, since Al-Ha can mean The God, it does not contradict the Sumerian fact that the first god who ruled before the Flood at Methuselah's birth has the name Al- Lulim or the second god has the name Al-Lagar or Allah-Gar. Gar is the god of the 1984 movie GhostBusters at Armageddon. Thats why my understanding the kinglist in 1984 freaked me out when I saw the movie as if I was being threatened by Gar for my discovery. The ten before the Flood supposedly rule the ten human kings since the Flood so that Gar ruled Assyria. This is why the ten (besides finger-count) is pertinent to beleive that the 10th king is when Armageddon comes. And it has caused the world to regard Medes and divided Rome to be two kings which leaves the last head or 7th government to be two kings. Thus issue has always existed from Jesus onward as to who was this current last king whether 284 AD or 650 AD or 800 AD or now.

Bottom line, ten preFlood gods or EL or AL are ten kings after the Flood known as Sar or Czar or Tsar etc.

Zacharia Sitchen pointed out the text where Abraham and AmarPal are at war in the 7th year being Iburrum against AmarSin who ruled 9 years from Abram 75-84 making the war when he was 82 (1936 BC). It is here that I note that Iburrum is Abraham, yet I also read in a newsgroup last week that Ibsha is 12th dynasty Abram in Egypt. I like this because the acronym for the birth of my Lord, the Queen Of Heaven in 1914 in Britain is I.B.S.A.

Interesting since sar and shar are the same, and in languages where they are not the same, they are opposite, for some shar is sar, and others sar is shar. I use sar for 3600 days and shar for 3600 years and saros for 3600 new moons. Like the singer Sade, the album says she says Shar-Day. They hear her say an R, but she is saying Sha-Day. I notice this in the Chines calendar hwere none of the names listed in the 1982 Book Of Calendars is the same anymore; the word Jia is used for Kiah, and the word for Rat is Zi instead of Tse (KiahTse and you find my quotes of the book; but look up Chinese calendar and online you find JiaZi). So you cannot make rules for billions of people speaking for 4400 years. God is not defined by human rules but by what he does. Though my research at times seems complete and full for this 2009 "end" versus what it was in 1997, I see constant new lessons. Even now I see that the variables are everywhere,  so many that i forget them. Egyptian month Pauni is frequently seen as Payni yet it is spelled by us for Arabic as Baune.

[Moses]

Gabri-EL  is Gibr-il in Arabic.
WHy not call him Gib-allah or some other name why Angel Gabri-EL?
Who is in presence of the LOrd YHWEH?

If you take a look at evidence you will see that I may be right.

The God of Abraham was it YAHWH? (Jehovah) So Quran is talking about Moses, Elijah, Jesus and others all under god  Jehovah ELohim.

The Quran origins are Judeo-Christian, some say the root6s are in the Jewish zealot warriors who had to hide in caves and travel away from Romans, and influence of Gnostic among others- at least that what some  scholars try to say.

Allah in Hebrew is also a baseball-bath - surely its sounds the same but its not the god of Muslims.

These are the ayats of the Book of Wisdom.

Is it a matter of wonderment to men that We have sent Our inspiration to a man from among themselves?- that he should warn mankind (of their danger), and give the good news to the Believers that they have before their Lord the lofty rank of truth. (But) say the Unbelievers: "This is indeed an evident sorcerer!"

Verily your Lord is Allah ( Elohim) , who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah (Elohim)your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?

To Him will be your return- of all of you. The promise of Allah (Jehovah Elohim) is true and sure. It is He Who beginneth the process of creation, and repeateth it, that He may reward with justice those who believe and work righteousness; but those who reject Him will have draughts of boiling fluids, and a penalty grievous, because they did reject Him.

It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did Allah (Elohim) create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.
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But when Our Clear Signs are rehearsed unto them, those who rest not their hope on their meeting with Us, Say: "Bring us a reading other than this, or change this," Say: "It is not for me, of my own accord, to change it: I follow naught but what is revealed unto me: if I were to disobey my Lord, I should myself fear the penalty of a Great Day (to come)."

Moses said: "O my people! If ye do (really) believe in Allah (Elohim), then in Him put your trust if ye submit (your will to His)."
 They said: "In Allah (Elohim) do we put out trust. Our Lord! make us not a trial for those who practise oppression;

 "And deliver us by Thy Mercy from those who reject (Thee)."

We took the Children of Israel across the sea: Pharaoh and his hosts followed them in insolence and spite. At length, when overwhelmed with the flood, he said: "I believe that there is no god except Him Whom the Children of Israel believe in: I am of those who submit (to Allah in Islam to Jehovah Elohim in submission)."