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Sandman
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« on: Jan 25, 2010, 10:40 PM »

It is generally accepted by Bible believing christians.  That there were only eight survivors on Noah's Ark.  But, I think it can be shown there was more than eight!  Visit my Blog to read my case for yourself.
http://carllebron.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=2
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 26, 2010, 01:58 PM »

It is generally accepted by Bible believing christians.  That there were only eight survivors on Noah's Ark.  But, I think it can be shown there was more than eight!  Visit my Blog to read my case for yourself.
http://carllebron.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=2

Arphaxad being born two years after the flood is no problem if Mrs. Shem got pregnant with her first on the Ark, or the first two boys were twins. 
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 26, 2010, 06:54 PM »

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  But, I think it can be shown there was more than eight!

You are playig fast and loose with the scriptures.

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“And Noe, when he was five hundred years old, begot Sem, Cham, and Japheth.” (Genesis 5:31) Also “In the six hundreth year of the life of Noe………..the flood gates of heaven were opened.” (Genesis 7:11) So then, Noe’s sons were already 100 years old when the flood occurred. Plenty of time to father children, before the flood occurs.

For you to be correct, you would have to prove that Japeth, Shem and Ham were triplets. Plus, 'in the 600th year...' does not mean he was past his 600th birthday. So your figuring is off and lacking too much information to be correct. The Bible is not wrong, if it says only 8 people then there were only 8 people.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 26, 2010, 07:01 PM »

Also what translation are you using? your quote-

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And Noe, when he was five hundred years old, begot Sem, Cham, and Japheth.” (Genesis 5:31)

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31 Altogether, Lamech lived 777 years, and then he died.

 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.


Clearly, you need to look at the details more closely before coming to any conclusions.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 27, 2010, 06:24 PM »

Also what translation are you using? your quote-

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And Noe, when he was five hundred years old, begot Sem, Cham, and Japheth.” (Genesis 5:31)

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31 Altogether, Lamech lived 777 years, and then he died.

 32 After Noah was 500 years old, he became the father of Shem, Ham and Japheth.


Clearly, you need to look at the details more closely before coming to any conclusions.

The version I use is the Douay Rheims; a english translation of St. Jeromes Latin version.  Thank you for the critique.  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 27, 2010, 10:50 PM »

I see your problem, that version is skipping passages, which is not a good idea.  I found the online version of yours here:

www.drbo.org and a catholic site has this to say:

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Following the forced conversion of England to Protestantism and the subsequent persecution and martyrdom of Catholics in that country, many Englishmen fled to the Continent. The expatriates felt the need for a new English translation of Scripture. Consequently, an edition of the New Testament was prepared and released in 1582 at Rheims, France, and an edition of the Old Testament was prepared and released in 1609 at the French town of Douay. The resulting fusion became known as the Douay-Rheims.

The original translation was based on the Latin Vulgate. However, it was revised from 1749–1752 by Bishop Richard Challoner, who corrected it according to the Clementine edition of the Vulgate (published by Clement VIII in 1592, after the Rheims New Testament) and the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. He also updated the spelling, vocabulary, and sentence structure. Today, all Douay-Rheims Bibles in print are actually the Douay-Rheims-Challoner version...

For both groups there are uncomfortable facts about the Douay.

www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0202bt.asp

Which is probably why you are having problems, there was no oversight, as far as I can see, thus the Bishop got to do what he wanted.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 10, 2010, 04:48 PM »

The King James Version says in Genesis 6:18 "But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."
In verse 19 of chapter 6 it says "And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
When it says "...to keep them alive..."  it is speaking of all living things of all flesh except humans. The human race is being kept alive through the eight people mentioned in Genesis 6:18.
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