The problem is that all you've laid out is just as much supposition (if not more) than the traditional chronology.
How do you explain the parallel of the Psalm 104 and the Hymn to the Aten outside of a crossing of paths between Akhenaten and Moses?
You can't do it by making contemporaries out of Akhenaten and David.
Now try reading this carefully...
Excuse me, kinsm’n but the Aten worship earliest dating is ca.1950 B.C. in the 12th Dynasty in the
Tale of Sinuhe. When Amenemhat I died he went up and joined the Aten in the heavens. Tuthmosis I was the oldest known 18th dynastic Pharaoh to use the Aten to the title Horus-Re who comes from the Aten. Reappearing in it familiar form during the reign of Amenophis II. His son Tuthmosis IV declared himself as “the lord of what the Aten encircles.” It was the Aten not Amun that Tuthmosis IV credited his victories too. In much of his reign, Tuthmosis IV gave his allegiance to the sun god not Amun. His son and grandson carried on the Atenism reforms. “The Hymn to the Aten” finds its first anticipated form in a hymn written during his father’s reign by Royal architects the twins Suti and Hor in a much shorter form. (Sources Oaks and Gahlin 2006: 380-383; Fletcher 2000:60-61)
You are or is Mr. John Day suggesting, uneducated Hebrew slaves. Barely able to orally pass down their own oral traditions; as other scholars would like us to believe. LOL remembered an Atenism hymn hidden away in an El Amarna desert tomb forgotten. About until the Brits started in 1824, exploring the Amarna area. Are you saying oral tradition is the source for Psalm 104. Who the credited author in much of Psalms, has always been David, his son etc.
King Saul hated David: what is a better place to send a troublesome boy than as a tribute gift to the Royal God Pharaoh? More likely IMHO David as an Hebrew child of the Royal nursery saw it as he was watching Suti and Hor, said to himself “ I can do better.” My view has as much to go on as any other and it fits with the history of the era even better. Later Akhenaten did his one of his own, from the same source. From Suti and Hor or received help from David. Akhenaten did have a soft spot in his heart for Jerusalem for those of you interested. Redford, David (1992).
Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times page 179.
“What if an exodus event took place at the end of Akhenaten's father's
life?”
WoW like I wrote in Exodus earlier today. Thirty-one years of punishment for enslaving the House of Jacob then given the blessings of Seti I and Ramesses II. That isn't even a Biblical generation of punishment.
”Akhenaten had broken away by then. at least religiously, his henotheistic views being well-documented before his father's death. What if Psalm 104 carries echoes of the Hymn to the Aten because the
departing Hebrews took it with them?”
Please read READ the above.
”Ex. 1:11 says the new Pharaoh set up treasure cities at Pithom and
Raamses.”
Do you even know where these cities are? They are about 5kms from the funerary chaples of Teti, and Pepy I. Teti began the enslavement of Asians of the 6th dynasty. He was a New Pharaoh and with the courtly violence preceding/during his reign I would pick him to set up new treasure cities.
”The land of Goshen is mentioned in Ex. 8:22 as being the place where the
Hebrews were quartered. this is in no way connected to the palace of Pharaoh. Again in Ex. 9:26 the Hebrews are located in Goshen, which was said to be immune to the plagues. Were the Pharaoh's palace and main
army there, they would have fallen under that immunity, according to the rules of the story.”
God just didn’t say, “Plagues go to Pharaoh’s house too; spare only those that are mine.” It was the traditional home of most of the Kings of the 18th Dynasty. Akhenaten being the only one, I know didn’t live there after growing up.
Perhaps you are not aware that Pepy I’s first born son died allowing his 2nd son Pepy II to rule. So, did Seqenenre Ta’o II first–born son die. Early young deaths were nothing new in ancient Egypt. The first-born sons of the following Amenophis I, Tuthmosis I, Tuthmosis III, Amenophis II, and Tuthmosis IV. What makes Amenophis III so special?
“Perhaps the Hebrews who left Egypt under Amenhotep III had heard of the trials of their brethren Habiru in Canaan and decided to help reclaim their homeland from the Egyptians? It would provide a sensical logical motivation for an exodus. Ah, but this raises the question of why Amenhotep III would have let them go. Why indeed.”
You use a lot of suppose.
Amenophis III was so rich he did not have to force people to stay in Egypt if they didn’t want to. You might want to read some of Moran’s translations of the complaints Brother Kings wrote to Amenophis III of their own servants taking to long to leave the Egyptian court.
From the reign of Ahmose I, until maybe the Assyrian conquest 671 B.C. there is no historical documentation of an Exodus out of Egypt. That provides evidence of any type of Exodus from Egypt. As for the Habiru, they were more likely partisans let loose by Akhenaten to harass those who did not worship the “One God” Would King David join such a group. Would an adulterer and murderer do such a thing? You had better believe he would if it meant a throne one day.
“I understand we cannot attest to the complete original meaning of the
list of Sheshonq I, however, the HB states that King Rehoboam fortified
14 cities in the hill country west of Jerusalem, and that the Egyptians
captured these 14 cities. Of those 14 cities, the only one that survives
on Sheshonq's list is Aijalon.
That leaves Bethlehem unattested in the Shoshenq I campaign record.
And Etam,
And Tekoa,
And Bethzur,
And Hebron,
And Ziph,
And Adoraim,
And Lachish,
And Mareshah,
And Moresheth-Gath,
And Adullam,
And Socoh,
And Azekah,
And Zorah.
Not to mention Jerusalem. It is plausible that we could be missing 1 or 2 cities from the list. In fact, we know that three cities' names are lost to us. But 14? Including the prize Jerusalem? This approaches unbelievability.
There are 39 other legible cities listed there. It is clear that the focus of the campaign (based on the accident of preservation) was the Negev, Israel , southern Galilee and Gilead.
I don't see wisdom in assuming that all those 14 cities were originally included in Sheshonq's list.”
I understand as well, why you can’t. Oh the other hand, I will continue to take to heart the words of Dr. Karol Mysliwiec from his 2000, book
The Twilight of Ancient Egypt pg. 45. “The sequence of the geographical names does not enable us to establish the topography of the conquests. Quite striking is the lack of any traces of Shoshenq’s presence in the center of Israel, in contrast to the peripheral Samaria and the mentions of Edom. Were we to depend only on this information, we would be obliged to doubt that Shoshenq penetrated as far as Jerusalem….” From there he joins one of those groups afraid of theology, religion, funding, or parents.
When looking only for Exodus or Hebrew history. You miss the greater Middle Eastern history going on around the desired event. Shoshenq traveled through Edom and peripheral Samaria where the Assyrian Kings Tiglath-Pileser I and Ashurnasirpal I had been marching in for the last one hundred years. Shoshenq was simply showing Egypt’s colors over her ancient land claims. Telling everyone including Assyria if they wanted the land, they would have to fight Egypt for it.
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