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« Reply #15 on: Sep 04, 2008, 03:46 PM »

San Remo Convention - World War I Document Archive
San Remo Convention
From World War I Document Archive
Extract
From: The Israel-Arab Reader, edited, Walter Laqueur, New York, Bantam Books, 1976, pps 34-42. {NB: This is an edited version of the complete San Remo Agreement, and the elipses found within form part of Dr. Laqueur's editorial process.}
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"The San Remo Conference decided on April 24, 1920 to assign the Mandate [for Palestine] under the League of Nations to Britain. The terms of the Mandate were also discussed with the United States which was not a member of the League. An agreed text was confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations on July 24, 1922, and it came into operation in September 1923."

The Council of the League of Nations:
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; and

Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country; and
Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connexion of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country;


Edited by Sekhmet so to get to the point.  I now return to the San Remo Convention-World War I Document {Archived}.

Article 9.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.

Respect for the personal status of the various peoples and communities and for their religious interests shall be fully guaranteed. In particular, the control and administration of Waqfs shall be exercised in accordance with religious law and the dispositions of the founders.


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Regarding your point about the 1925 Waqfs statement.  Do you really count statements made while being occupied that are favorable to the intents of the occupiers?  I do not as a rule.  To be fair one should know the whole history.  Not just that which is pleasing to self.

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And again no I am not Muslim however outside of myself it is my understanding that I am only the second member of my family to speak/read Arabic and Farsi or use too anyway :-\.  Since my first cousin 3 times removed followed in my grandfather 4 times removed steps.  On second thought maybe I am the third member of the family. 
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 05, 2008, 10:49 PM »


In regard to the issue at hand...

The 1925 Supreme Muslim Council sets up a precedent for the Muslims to be challenged by their own past rulings that disown the future ages of disinformation.

In other words, even in a Muslim religious court, a case can be made by this 1925 document as to allowing the Temple Mount to be at least equally divided with Israel, even if the Muslims wish to keep the Dome of the Rock.

This is in line with the prophecy of Ezekiel 42:20, in which a wall of partition might be made on the Temple Mount, and both a Jewish Temple and a Dome of the Rock co-exist.  If...if this is to be the case, we can see the  aspect of eventual co-existence, in part, to be yet  achieved in Muslim Religious Courts or debates, is to be won because of Muslim Supreme Council rulings in print in 1925, etc., that favors the Jews and recognizes their inheritance to the Mount.   

The facts are the facts.  If we can seek and obtain even half a Jewish Temple Mount, archaeologists and the whole -- computerized or televised --  world  will finally get to behold, once and for all, the Ark of the Covenant seen by Moses and King David as it is brought up from beneath the Temple Mount. 

 Then,  the de facto building of the  Temple can begin, and the red heifer can be sacrificed, and we can perhaps observe the building and operation of Temple operations and preparations in a way no other generation has ever seen before...from the ground up, and on instant replay whenever we would so desire and at our leisure.

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« Reply #17 on: Oct 17, 2008, 06:41 PM »

October 15th [2008], the first day of Chol Hamoed, (1st day of the intermediate days of Sukkot), the designated day for the biblically commanded Hakhel ceremony:

"'At the end of [every] seven years, at an appointed time, in the Festival of Sukkot, [after] the sabbatical year, when all Israel comes to appear before HaShem, your G-d, in the place He will choose you shall read this Torah before all Israel, in their ears.'" (Deuteronomy 31:10)


...People interested in participating in this once-in-seven-years mitzvah, (which in accordance with halachah - Jewish law - requires a ritual immersion prior to ascending), were asked to register in advance with the Temple Institute for the purpose of expediting the police security arrangements at the Moghrabi Gate entrance to the Temple Mount.

Two aliyot (ascents) were scheduled, one at 7:30 AM and a second ascent at 12:30 PM to accommodate those arriving from afar. An unprecedented four hundred Jews showed up at 7:30 AM and were ushered onto the Temple Mount. This was the largest gathering of Jews on the Temple Mount at one time since its liberation from the Moslems in 1967 - a true Hakhel, (literally, assembly). Once on the Mount the group was, with the prior consent of the police, able to read aloud the prescribed Hakhel ceremony passages from the book of Deuteronomy. Both the size of the assembly and the public Torah service that took place were unprecedented milestones in the ongoing efforts to spiritually liberate the Temple Mount from Moslem oppression. History was made.



The Temple Institute: Hakhel 5769 on the Temple Mount

Thousands Gather for Temple Congregation Ceremony - Jewish World - Israel News - Arutz Sheva

And 5 were measured for future readings in authentic 1st century garb at an unknown time in the future, including the infamous Rabbi Shlomo Riskin of Jerusalem Post fame.

The Third Temple - Opinion - Arutz Sheva

As combining two prayers may go:

"May HASHEM speedily rebuild His Temple...next year in Jerusalem."

Biblical Archaeology would learn a whole new world of information for it.

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« Reply #18 on: Oct 28, 2008, 10:57 PM »

Universal Torah Network » Topography of the Temple Mount, Part I


The Temple Institute has introduced a rabbinic perspective on the Temple Mount topography, and will incorporate Maimonides (Rambam's) visit there during the Middle Ages.

Other pertinent Temple data on other videos with Rabbi Richman can be pulled up to view as well, and usually requires about a half hour of free time for each video. 

For those truly interested in the Temples that were, and the coming Temple to be built in our days, I recommend the Temple Institute of Jerusalem for your support and learning experience.
 
Shalom.

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« Reply #19 on: Oct 29, 2008, 12:55 PM »

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Esteemed Brianroy.

An exellent link you posted.!

I found this i think very interesting and informative link about the construction of the Temple.

I think its very informative but i,m no a specialist.

Turanclancath :)
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 23, 2008, 12:20 PM »

Dream Come True: Buried Treasure Found Outside Temple Mount
 
by Hillel Fendel


(IsraelNN.com) A 1,300-year-old treasure of 250 gold coins has been unearthed at the archaeological dig just below Dung Gate outside the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The excavation, which has already provided a series of fascinating finds, has been underway for two years at the Givati car park just outside and below the southern part of the Old City.

The stash was discovered Sunday by Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) archaeologists, in a joint project with the Nature and Parks Authority that is sponsored by "Elad," the City of David Association.  The coins were found amidst the ruins of an impressively large building in the process of being uncovered. The building is dated from the end of the Byzantine period, around the seventh century C.E.  

Dr. Doron Ben-Ami and Yana Tzachnovitz, who are leading the excavation, explained, “As no pottery was found near the treasure, it can be assumed that it was hidden in a concealed niche in a wall of the building.  It appears that as the building collapsed, the coins piled up among the ruins.”

The only other treasure of gold coins found from the same period in Jerusalem includes only five coins – compared to the 264 found now. The image of Caesar Heraclius, who ruled the East Roman Empire from 610 to 641, is engraved on the coins.

The archaeologists, whose excitement at finding the coins can barely be overstated, are still hoping to find answers to these questions: What was the nature of this building? Under what circumstances was it destroyed? Why were the coins buried there? How is it that they were forgotten, abandoned, or rendered inaccessible?

Searching for the answers to these and other riddles, the combing of the site continues.


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« Reply #21 on: Feb 23, 2009, 09:39 AM »

City of David on Temple Mount virtual  tour site:

http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/hp_eng.asp

Language options in Hebrew, French, Spanish, English by clicking on national flags when link pulls up.
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 24, 2009, 08:47 AM »

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
More Bible proof: Temple relics unearthed
Archaeologists discover official seals from Kingdom of Judah

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Posted: February 23, 2009
10:39 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

 

JERUSALEM – Israeli archaeologists yesterday announced the discovery of a large building dating to the time of the First and Second Temples associated with Hezekiah, the King of Judah.

The Israeli government's Antiquities Authority oversaw the excavation in the southern Jerusalem village of Umm Tuba. The agency said its archaeologists unearthed the remains of an ancient building consisting of several rooms arranged around a courtyard, containing pottery and other artifacts from the First and Second Temple Periods.

The finds include official government seals bearing the names of Ahimelekh ben Amadyahu and Yehokhil ben Shahar, who were high-ranking officials in Hezekiah's government. The life of Hezekiah, the son of King Ahaz is detailed in the biblical books of Kings, Isaiah and Chronicles. Hezekiah was the 13th king of independent Judah.

Archaeologists also found a Hebrew inscription – dating 600 years after the Kingdom of Judah seals – on a fragment of a jar neck, characteristic of the beginning of the Hasmonean period. The ancient building was partially destroyed during the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem.

The finds are the latest in a mountain of unearthed remains giving a clearer picture of the Jewish presence in Jerusalem during the First and Second Temple periods.

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Holiest site

The Temple Mount is the holiest site in Judaism. The First Temple was built there by King Solomon in the 10th century B.C. when the Kingdom of Israel was united. After the kingdom split into two entities, Israel and Judah, the temple was destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 B.C. The Second Temple was rebuilt in 515 B.C. after Jerusalem was freed from Babylonian captivity. That temple was destroyed by the Roman Empire in A.D. 70. Each temple stood for a period of over four centuries.

...According to the Talmud, the world was created from the foundation stone of the Temple Mount. The site is believed to be the biblical Mount Moriah, the location where Abraham fulfilled God's test to see if he would be willing to sacrifice his son Isaac.

Jewish tradition holds Mashiach, or the Jewish Messiah, will return and rebuild the third and final Temple on the Mount in Jerusalem. The Kotel, or Western Wall, is the one part of the Temple Mount that survived the destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans and stands today in Jerusalem.

Throughout all notorious Jewish exiles, thorough documentation shows the Jews never gave up hope of returning to Jerusalem and re-establishing their Temple. To this day, Jews worldwide pray facing the Western Wall, while Muslims turn their backs away from the Temple Mount and pray toward Mecca. The Al Aqsa Mosque was constructed around A.D. 709 to serve as a shrine near another shrine, the Dome of the Rock, which was built by an Islamic caliph.

[It was only ]  About 100 years ago,  [that]  the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem became associated with the place Muslims came to believe Muhammad ascended to heaven. Jerusalem, however, is not mentioned in the Quran.

... historically, Muslims did not claim the Al Aqsa Mosque as their third holiest site and admitted the Jewish Temples existed.

According to research by Israeli author Shmuel Berkovits, Islam previously disregarded Jerusalem. He points out in his book "How Dreadful Is this Place!" that Muhammad was said to loathe Jerusalem and what it stood for. Berkovits wrote that Muhammad made a point of eliminating pagan sites of worship and sanctifying only one place – the Kaaba in Mecca – to signify the unity of God. As late as the 14th century, Islamic scholar Taqi al-Din Ibn Taymiyya, whose writings influenced the Wahhabi movement in Arabia, ruled that sacred Islamic sites are to be found only in the Arabian Peninsula and that "in Jerusalem, there is not a place one [that Islam ]   calls sacred, and the same holds true for the tombs of Hebron." 

[Hence, all Isalamic claims otherwise are a farce, and a Public Relations spin -- Brianroy].

It wasn't until the late 19th century – incidentally when Jews started immigrating to Palestine – that some Muslim scholars began claiming Muhammad tied his horse to the Western Wall and associated Muhammad's purported night journey with the Temple Mount.

A guide to the Temple Mount by the Supreme Muslim Council in Jerusalem published in 1925 listed the Mount as the site of Solomon's Temple. The Temple Institute acquired a copy of the official 1925 "Guide Book to Al-Haram Al-Sharif," which states on page four, "Its identity with the site of Solomon's Temple is beyond dispute. This, too, is the spot, according to universal belief, on which 'David built there an altar unto the Lord.'"


[] - squared brackets and inserted  words above, mine.   -- Brianroy
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2009, 06:33 AM »

http://www.cityofdavid.org.il/ArticleDetails_eng.asp?id=223

May 19, 2009  Press Release from the City of David

"1st Temple seal discovered with name "Shaul"

A bone seal, engraved with the name Shaul, from the time of the First Temple, was found in the IAA excavations in the walls around Jerusalem National Park, in the City of David. 

Today (Tuesday, 19 May 2009) the Knesset presidium, headed by Speaker Reuben Rivlin, visited the City of David in Jerusalem. A Hebrew seal that dates to the time of the First Temple was displayed for the first time during the visit. The seal was found in an excavation that is being conducted in the Walls Around Jerusalem National Park, on behalf of the Israel Antiquities Authority and in cooperation with the Nature and Parks Authority, under the direction of Professor Ronny Reich of the University of Haifa and Eli Shukron of the IAA, and underwritten by the ‘Ir David Foundation'.

The seal, which is made of bone, was found broken and is missing a piece from its upper right side. Two parallel lines divide the surface of the seal into two registers in which Hebrew letters are engraved:

????

????. . .

A period followed by a floral image or a tiny fruit appear at the end of the bottom name.

The name of the seal’s owner was completely preserved and it is written in the shortened form of the name ???? (Shaul). The name is known from both the Bible (Genesis 36:37; 1 Samuel 9:2; 1 Chronicles 4:24 and 6:9) and from other Hebrew seals.

According to Professor Reich, “This seal joins another Hebrew seal that was previously found and three Hebrew bullae (pieces of clay stamped with seal impressions) that were discovered nearby. These five items have great chronological importance regarding the study of the development of the use of seals. While the numerous bullae that were discovered in the adjacent rock-hewn pool were found together with pottery sherds from the end of the ninth and beginning of the eighth centuries BCE, they do not bear any Semitic letters. On the other hand, the five Hebrew epigraphic artifacts were recovered from the soil that was excavated outside the pool, which contained pottery sherds that date to the last part of the eighth century.

It seems that the development in the design of the seals occurred in Judah during the course of the eighth century BCE. At the same time as they engraved figures on the seal, at some point they also started to engrave them with the names of the seals’ owners. This was apparently when they started to identify the owner of the seal by his name rather than by some sort of graphic representation.”


It appears that the “office” which administered the correspondence and received the goods that were all sealed with bullae continued to exist and operate within a regular format even after a residential dwelling was constructed inside the same “rock-hewn pool” and the soil and the refuse that contained the many aforementioned bullae were trapped beneath its floor. This “office” continued to generate refuse that included bullae, which were opened and broken, as well as seals that were no longer used and were discarded into the heap of rubbish that continued to accumulate in the vicinity."

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 22, 2009, 10:22 AM »

I confess myself somewhat partial to the notion that what is called temple mount today was in fact the Antonia fortress, as it's about the size required for a legion camp.  And the temple was just south of it.  This would comport with Josephus' account of the city after its destruction, that the only visible structure left to be seen was the Antonia.  All else had disappeared in complete and total razing.

If there is somehow a new discovery confirming this view, the temple might then be rebuilt without recourse to scraping off the Dome and Al Aqsa.  The Moslems could hardly object to such a project then.  All would be peace between the parties on that score.

Interesting thought, IMO.
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