Los Lunas Decalog

[RamboPreacher]

It's a fake. Modern Hebrew pronunciation (despite the "Barry" feller), regular inscription (far too modern compared to what's in antiquity), and found by someone who was proven to forge evidence for his theory.

I mean, who buys into this garbage?

While I can understand the Hebraic references.  that is certainly not "proof" that it is fake.  Do you have any cites show that the one that found/discovered this forges evidences?

This is all pretty new to me, though I have heard of it before, it was in passing - a while back and the person mentioning it was as certain as you (and others here) are that it was fake.

I may lean that direction, but I don't have enough information to make that absolute decision; let alone make an apriori statement that it absolutely without any doubt is a fake and that everyone should agree that it is fake.

I don't have any evidences one way or another; let alone "proof".

[rumplesnitz]

Well, I've been doing some reading, following the links provided and doing some searches.  About all I've found have been links from folk who want us to believe the assertions of Ancient Hebrews, Greeks, Phoenicians, and Mycenaeans mining gold in Ophir (the Americas).  There's either a dearth of negative input because no one will pay simply to dispute Santa Clause, or there's nothing to dispute...  I don't know which.  I'll drag in some of the sources and maybe some of y'all can give 'em a thumbs up or down.

I think Cyrus H. Gordon is one of the proponents of the idea.

[eliyahu hanavi]

Can someone please enlighten me about the claim that there is an inscription of the Decalog in an ancient Hebrew script on a rock in Los Lunas, Mexico.

Are there any other inscriptions, in Hebrew or other ancient languages, anywhere in America ?

Can these inscriptions be confirmed ?

The next question then is how old are they and who engraved them ?

Yes, they are considered to be a not-so-clever forgery by reputable scholars. The inscriptions (like anything) can never be completely proven to be fake. However, scientists do not try to prove anything with 100% because they realize that it cannot be done. We rely on probability. Also, there are many fields utilized in such an endeavor.

The Los Lunas inscriptions are most assuredly no older than the Middle Ages and most likely not even nearly that old. Probably no older than shortly before the spurious announcement of their discovery. That Hibben was fraudulent does nothing for the case and that there is a mixture of alphabets and modern Hebrew punctuation nearly devastates the argument that it is extremely ancient. Unfortunately, it was never placed intor safe-keeping for study and the patina is all but destroyed. I place it in the realms of UFO's and JFK conspiracy theories.

[rumplesnitz]

Can someone please enlighten me about the claim that there is an inscription of the Decalog in an ancient Hebrew script on a rock in Los Lunas, Mexico.

Are there any other inscriptions, in Hebrew or other ancient languages, anywhere in America ?

Can these inscriptions be confirmed ?

The next question then is how old are they and who engraved them ?

Yes, they are considered to be a not-so-clever forgery by reputable scholars. The inscriptions (like anything) can never be completely proven to be fake. However, scientists do not try to prove anything with 100% because they realize that it cannot be done. We rely on probability. Also, there are many fields utilized in such an endeavor.

The Los Lunas inscriptions are most assuredly no older than the Middle Ages and most likely not even nearly that old. Probably no older than shortly before the spurious announcement of their discovery. That Hibben was fraudulent does nothing for the case and that there is a mixture of alphabets and modern Hebrew punctuation nearly devastates the argument that it is extremely ancient. Unfortunately, it was never placed intor safe-keeping for study and the patina is all but destroyed. I place it in the realms of UFO's and JFK conspiracy theories.

Thanks for this info! 

Can you post some links to the sources or describe where I can look them up so I can read up on it?

[eliyahu hanavi]

Can someone please enlighten me about the claim that there is an inscription of the Decalog in an ancient Hebrew script on a rock in Los Lunas, Mexico.

Are there any other inscriptions, in Hebrew or other ancient languages, anywhere in America ?

Can these inscriptions be confirmed ?

The next question then is how old are they and who engraved them ?

Yes, they are considered to be a not-so-clever forgery by reputable scholars. The inscriptions (like anything) can never be completely proven to be fake. However, scientists do not try to prove anything with 100% because they realize that it cannot be done. We rely on probability. Also, there are many fields utilized in such an endeavor.

The Los Lunas inscriptions are most assuredly no older than the Middle Ages and most likely not even nearly that old. Probably no older than shortly before the spurious announcement of their discovery. That Hibben was fraudulent does nothing for the case and that there is a mixture of alphabets and modern Hebrew punctuation nearly devastates the argument that it is extremely ancient. Unfortunately, it was never placed intor safe-keeping for study and the patina is all but destroyed. I place it in the realms of UFO's and JFK conspiracy theories.

Thanks for this info! 

Can you post some links to the sources or describe where I can look them up so I can read up on it?

Hello, Rumplesnitz!

(Love the name BTW...)

Anyway, I am not trying to avoid posting links, but it will be up to you to decide so I would just use search terms such as "Los Lunas inscription" or "Los Lunas inscription" coupled with "authenticity"...etc. You will be able to "weed out" the sites with an agenda as they will not offer much in the way of evidence, but will assert quite a bit. Also, key phrases to be wary of include "many scholars today" or "most people agree" or even "it has been stated". These are what I refer to as "Shoddy Sites". Good luck and as I don't expect you (or anybody) to merely take my word for it, then you may wish to avail yourself of a little research into paleography, etymology, etc. Beware! You will find yourself quickly engrossed and deluged with the flood of information--but it is completely worthwhile.

[turanclancath]

Los Lunas Decalogue - Introduction

and a link with a lot of pictures of Los L

Los Lunas NM Decalogue Inscription

This ( nr 1 ) is an handy introduction about Los Lunas.

With a reasoned bibliography.

Although I  personally  believe it to be   a fake ( like so many artefacts  trying to prove Columbus wasnt the first in 1492  ) it is an  good introduction, although the author believes  Los Lunas is genuine.
I will look for more material.



Enjoy your monday .

turanclancath

[MinisterKGC]

I actually have a photograph of this hanging on my wall that a friend gave me because he knows of my interest in ancient Hebrew. I did find some of the letters a bit off, and he showed me a book he bought in Israel and I remember when reading the translation, it was a mite bit off from the original. That is not to say it isn't real. But since the Ten commandments were sealed up in the arc of the covenant, this may be a rending handed down, word of mouth, and not word for word. So for me the jury's still out.

I do remember him saying that  this rock is at the bottom of a fairly high hill and that there are also other inscriptions and 'ancient' graffiti higher up. That may be something you may want to look into.