Charlatan and Fake

[Elijah]

My post in Google newsgroups regarding April 11:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/browse_thread/thread/670369a4e4e38e9a?hl=en

Know what it means to accept Jehovah as he is.
To accept him as he is doesn't mean an asteroid does not strike this year. It does not mean it wont cause mantle meltdown and collapse this year. But it does mean that the date of a collapse due to asteroid this year is a different date than another type of continental collapse on Passover that of the President's bow to another king.

The State is a liar to say it is not a bow. The reaction of denial is absolute proof of fear that everyone knows it was a bow. Instead the State should have pointed out that there is a difference between a bow which states this is my greatest honor to meet you of all people even other kings and queens. Perhaps the State reply should have been Let us ask all other kings and queens and presidents if they are offended that they did not get the same bow. It shouldn't be a question of what the people think but what other rulers think. So I would say the world's continents indeed took a plunge or collapse in not my way as I predicted but in Jehovah's way by letting Jehovah be what he will be, it is his universe. This does not eliminate the manner nor the year of Armageddon.
IT BEGINS IT
It is like 1914, the shot that rang around the world.

ELIJAH
And to think, my finger stood over a button deciding whether to push it for a connection flight thru Istanbul that would have been there all day at the same time... I too would bow in respect and honor not worship nor even subservience since my God is higher than these kings and I would go anywhere without government permit if that God declares I do so. Now I face another issue, the first time I have ever been called to jury duty.

[notalent]

My post in Google newsgroups regarding April 11:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.jehovahs-witn/browse_thread/thread/670369a4e4e38e9a?hl=en

Know what it means to accept Jehovah as he is.
To accept him as he is doesn't mean an asteroid does not strike this year. It does not mean it wont cause mantle meltdown and collapse this year. But it does mean that the date of a collapse due to asteroid this year is a different date than another type of continental collapse on Passover that of the President's bow to another king.

The State is a liar to say it is not a bow. The reaction of denial is absolute proof of fear that everyone knows it was a bow. Instead the State should have pointed out that there is a difference between a bow which states this is my greatest honor to meet you of all people even other kings and queens. Perhaps the State reply should have been Let us ask all other kings and queens and presidents if they are offended that they did not get the same bow. It shouldn't be a question of what the people think but what other rulers think. So I would say the world's continents indeed took a plunge or collapse in not my way as I predicted but in Jehovah's way by letting Jehovah be what he will be, it is his universe. This does not eliminate the manner nor the year of Armageddon.
IT BEGINS IT
It is like 1914, the shot that rang around the world.

ELIJAH
And to think, my finger stood over a button deciding whether to push it for a connection flight thru Istanbul that would have been there all day at the same time... I too would bow in respect and honor not worship nor even subservience since my God is higher than these kings and I would go anywhere without government permit if that God declares I do so. Now I face another issue, the first time I have ever been called to jury duty.

If the asteroid does not come this year, you can always claim it was like the deliverance of Nineveh, which would make you Jonah-like.  So there's always an out, and we won't be obliged to stone you as a false prophet. 

Deu 18:20 "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak ... even that prophet shall die."

[Elijah]

This is not so.
I am willing to die for this.
It is 104 years where every 49 jubilees from
the new city Jerudalem 527-443 BC
is repeated in the WatchTower's IBSA
from 1914-2008 as Nehemiah's 32nd year.
All events as a 50th jubilee, are 7 weeks to
build the city as Daniel said, and on a smaller scale
with each jubilee as a week of Sabbaths (49 weeks)
another 20 weeks makes the 69  (7+62) where the first
set falls as Maccabees in 7 weeks, and the completion
of 69 weeks (69 Jubilees) places the 70th jubilee or
70th week as 1000 years after these 49 weeks.
The point is not the ususla or typical play with numbers
and jubilees and days for years, but rather that all events
written from Daniel's death 538 BC to Nehemiah and Malachi
have exact duplicates in WatchTower belief.
Then in 2007 as 2008 apporached, the enemy on the net who swore that the unveiling of Aratxerxes lunar dates whould prove him to be 464-423 BC instead comes by me who knows Artaxerxes used the Zoroastrian calendar and such dates are 9 years earlier 474-433 BC. No this is not 10 years earlier because the lunar dates if Egyptian all fall as 465-424 BC.
Having these dates proves that the real Artaxerxes not only proves the real Christ as 29-33 AD not Adventist coming 27-31 AD, but also then proves the 31 year of Artaxerxes 32nd year in 50th jubilee to be from 474-443 BC not 464-433 BC and so 1977-2008 AD not 1986-2017 AD or 1987-2018 AD. The lunar dates are enough evidence for the bride of Christ to sacrifice herself as was 33 AD enough evidence for Jesus to realize that Passover was his day pf sacrifice.

You said no reason for John to die for date picking? Yet he did didnt he. And so will I. In 1983, dying before the hour was the first thing i recognized if i were Elijah or John.
ELIJAH

[notalent]

This is not so.
I am willing to die for this.
It is 104 years where every 49 jubilees from
the new city Jerudalem 527-443 BC
is repeated in the WatchTower's IBSA
from 1914-2008 as Nehemiah's 32nd year.
All events as a 50th jubilee, are 7 weeks to
build the city as Daniel said, and on a smaller scale
with each jubilee as a week of Sabbaths (49 weeks)
another 20 weeks makes the 69  (7+62) where the first
set falls as Maccabees in 7 weeks, and the completion
of 69 weeks (69 Jubilees) places the 70th jubilee or
70th week as 1000 years after these 49 weeks.
The point is not the ususla or typical play with numbers
and jubilees and days for years, but rather that all events
written from Daniel's death 538 BC to Nehemiah and Malachi
have exact duplicates in WatchTower belief.
Then in 2007 as 2008 apporached, the enemy on the net who swore that the unveiling of Aratxerxes lunar dates whould prove him to be 464-423 BC instead comes by me who knows Artaxerxes used the Zoroastrian calendar and such dates are 9 years earlier 474-433 BC. No this is not 10 years earlier because the lunar dates if Egyptian all fall as 465-424 BC.
Having these dates proves that the real Artaxerxes not only proves the real Christ as 29-33 AD not Adventist coming 27-31 AD, but also then proves the 31 year of Artaxerxes 32nd year in 50th jubilee to be from 474-443 BC not 464-433 BC and so 1977-2008 AD not 1986-2017 AD or 1987-2018 AD. The lunar dates are enough evidence for the bride of Christ to sacrifice herself as was 33 AD enough evidence for Jesus to realize that Passover was his day pf sacrifice.

You said no reason for John to die for date picking? Yet he did didnt he. And so will I. In 1983, dying before the hour was the first thing i recognized if i were Elijah or John.
ELIJAH

I'm unfamiliar with which dates for which he was killed.  I'd rather thought his death was for a dance.  Also, the sacrificing of the bride is a foreign concept to me.  Can you direct me to the relevant scripture regarding this?

You seem to believe your date calculations entail some sort of peril to yourself.  Could you elaborate a little on the threat.  I wasn't aware such calculations would engender malice, particularly from someone like yourself who has, as far as I know, no following whatsoever.  But maybe that's an incorrect assumption on my part.

[Elijah]

I am a voice in the wilderness. As an enclopedia mind who never gave credit to anyone i read, because nor is it credit to me, but all to God for revealing. Not knowing where i read things is their excuse to say it means it is not so, and yet it is the lies that are published and sold for money everywhere in the world. So little know-it-all me became rejected by all, in the church, in school, at work, by family. I have no following and no one asks to follow me. I get accused of things i havent done. Yes I am convinced that if a Satan exists he follows specific people around who may be the any of the ones whom the spirit of God moves.

His death was not for someone to dance. It was her mother the whore of king Herod who has a husband back in Rome, John opened his big mouth like I did and told her what she was, and she killed him, not her slutty dancing daughter. Herod was afraid to kill him because the people said John was a prophet of God.

Daniel says the holy people will be dashed to pieces. Rvelation says if the tribulation were not cut short no flesh would be saved. Butu then he says what cuts it short is the holy ones, if it were not for the holy ones, no flesh would be saved. Well the holy priests and kings as a bride to Jesus do not save their flesh... they discard it to go to heaven. Nor is it God who saves their flesh to prove they are right. He did that with Noah, saved his flesh to prove him right, but he did not do that with Jesus. With Jesus he TOOK his life and predicted it to porve God right and prove Jesus right. So too the bride dies so her children of flesh live. It is only to them that she (all 144,000 including the 10,000 killed by Obama) appears for 40 days. They are the whole world since everyone else dies, and it becomes true that the whole world has literally seen the christ in heaven before Armageddon. However, right now the whole world sees the christ not in heaven but on earth in flesh, it is her as long as she is Esther and not Vashti. Satan wants her to fail as he wanted Satan to fail, so no matter how many people say we will not kill them, it cannot be stopped, they will kill, because it is now that Satan is put to sleep, not when he killed Jesus.
The 144,000 with Jesus do this and cannot do this to Satan, put under their feet, unless they are all successfully there. Satan can stop it and prove God wrong. Then all will die from the asteroid and humanity be extinct except for the incomplete bride already in heaven.
ELIJAH

Revelation speaks of 10 days tribulation, perhaps this follows the beast hour (the 12th or 30-day month of a year) adding up to 40 because Xisuthros appeared as spirit 40 days pretending to be dead Noah (2021 BC Dec 24 to 2020 BC Feb 2) and so likewise Jesus too appeared 40 days. This implies the bride will appear 40 days before the asteroid... not the same as the 40 days i presumed for April 9 passover as 33 days before it, then asteroid, and then 7 days to collapse the continents into water.

[notalent]

not the same as the 40 days i presumed for April 9 passover as 33 days before it, then asteroid, and then 7 days to collapse the continents into water.

Collapsing contients into water was your interpretation of part of the flood mechanism.  Are you referring to repeat of that mechanism (and result) or are you just referring to the original event?

[Elijah]

Which flood? I am referring to all events. Repetition of flood by tectonics.
Many global floods before Adam, from Day One thru Day 6 and then Noah's 2370 BC and now 2009 AD.

First I will explain where other theories fail. The water vapor canopy is not a theory, it is a fact, but that fact includes air pressure that cannot be greater than adding more than 40 feet of freshwater (without salt) doubling air pressure. Three atmospheres is considered survivable but not as year round 365-day environment. This means the vapor canopy is what rained 40 days, but it is not what covered the mountains.

The continents collapsed into the ocean due to a melting of the mantle under the ocean, that spreds to under the land, and causes a flow to under the ocean that will come back and return under the land pushing it back up because it is more boyant as a total mass than the compressed ocean water is. What causes the mantle to melt under the ocean floors is astral impact. The energy goes into Earth (the mantle) heating it, and mostly the fracturing of it is what melts it (since the mantle is already at melting point, it is the fractures that allow the mantle to melt). To drop continents 2 miles so continent surface equals ocean floors, the mantle must melt 2 miles down. It is 2 miles from the base of Mount Ararat to its peak. This is not saying mountains leveled out. The whole plate drops. Every plate. But the reason they drop is because the ocean floors are pushed out. By impact throwing energy into the mantle along with added mass, the Earth has to bulge out some where. Where? the oceans, because although heaver than land, the have thinner floors, and they also are displaceable. So all oceans suddenly bulge up allowing mantle to melt under them. This spreds to under the continents, and in 7 days a collapse. The collapse is 40 feet every time the moon rises and sets. When the moon is over or below the ocean (high tide) it pulls up on the melted mantle 40 feet and the land at low tide then collapses 40 feet doing so 290 times in 150 days (every 12.25 hours).

Last week (in June 2009) I realized that this process of being struck by asteroid when many asteroids were more numerous is what rose the continents above the global ocean of Day One. It speaks agains Creationists because
that process took a year each time it happened, just as it did for Noah. Each time the continents fell below the ocean sea level again it was creating layers of boyant geology in the land mass to keep it from falling back down as far each time, until Day 3 of 7000 years the land mass stayed above water. Even this last time Mount Ararat and Pikes Peak have a base that is a mile higher than before the Flood. This doesnt mean the process stopped on Day 3, nor has to this day. To the contrary we were struck more times before man arrived because proof is there are layers of fossilized land animals from Flood before Noah's Flood 2370 BC in 1656 years of man. Contrary to creationists insisting on 24 hour creation days (when here creation by Noah's flood took not 7 days but a whole year to create the current world) all the fossils are not from ONE GLOBAL FLOOD. And each Flood took a whole year so that the days are not 24 hours to create in 6 days. However, nor are the many floods of only local single individual continents. They were global because of the process that asteroid impact will buldge out every ocean and thus drop every continent.

False mulitple canopy ring theory:
The mulitple nature of this is not just proven by geology who attempts multiple ice ages (rather than just the one of creating ice caps after Noah's Flood). The fact it existed is agreed by original creationists who could see how mulitple rings would create many global floods before man came along. The mulitple ring theory is from Saturn.  But the problem there is they are not spherical, (cannot retain circumpolar orbit, there is no such force existing. Any orbit at the pole must cross north-south over the opposite pole.)

But another problem with layers is that temperatue is required to keep layers separated as in a furnace. Also once separated you will not get several layers of the same element. If gold melts and floats to the top, or sinks to the bottom, it will not take up layers at sereral depths and heights. So too water vapor can only exist as one canopy above the air. So successive collapses cannot exist, even if you wish to say this is atmosphere clearing during Day 2, or the most probable was to explain away why continental floods (or ice ages) in geology are successive having happened before. As of last week i have no doubt they did, because it is clear that a process of up down up down had to be put into motion to push land up and make it stay up. From an ocean floor that is global, the layers of continental mass must be created to stay above water. So to do so an up-down effect has to be created until land mass becomes layers of mass that are not found in ocean floors. So water doesnt just drain off land already high.  Nor does land just push up out of water having been formerly ocean floor. Facts prove the mountains and land are not the same as the ocean floors despite continents have gone under water to create temporary sea floors and sea life upon them.

To place all layers of the grand canyon into 6 days of 7000 years each 12.5 million must be instead 1000 years.
(7000 is based on current Day 7 as being 6000+1000 and this is not from the COINCIDENCE that when the Julian year was discovered to differ from Gregorian seasonal the precession between sideral and seasonal was not yet known as 25,600 years but was compared to Julian not sidereal which gives 49,000 years or 7x7000).

THIS SCALE allows us to see the many floods occurring to bring the land up and keep it up by creating its boyant layers. Thus the rainbow proves the canopy is not up there to drown the world with 40 feet of rain again, but it does not stop the impact predicted by all religions pagan and jewish and christian of a falling star from heaven creating global fire to also sink the land into the oceans again, this time only up to the mountains. You must flee within 7 days.

I am willing to politically die rather than retract this belief.
Though I could wish all to die, and nobdoy live. And I dont ever wish to live again. I am in misery and very vindictive. I know that whether for me or for all the dead, that they cannot come to life again unless the birde of Jesus in heaven saves flesh thru this disaster, because it is by their voice (the survivors') that the dead will come to life. NO survivors means no ressurrection. It is a judicial case of Satan against God and who will be right about winning it.
So if my message to the bride means like John I must get beheaded to make that message, I must do it for myself to get ressurrected or anyone else to. It is not a case where I could survive alone and be all this for the whole world to restore it, repopulate it, or even raise its dead (this is not the movie Terminator). It is not my role so I couldnt take it even if I thought that high of me. You wont find me being Michael saying that anything i do for a child is for the childs pleasure, the whole world of children. I get accused of enough ego just for beleiving i am correct and right about what is happening and will happen.

ELIJAH
recalling  9th grade when boys at school said i was a homo and would say like Michael and Clifton Davis. I know my father, i know his will, and thank Jehovah he wasnt a man who wanted me in Motown so his wallet could be filled. Michael has said many things on TV about his parents that i could have said about mine and didnt. And I am happy my JW mom dominated my father had my father been a man who would have done all those things to us kids that rumor says. My dad is old, dying, and has alot more moments of humility; shame that mom looks more at Katherine on what kind of witness she was to allow it.

quote- And Elijah will come and he will bring fathers back to sons.

[notalent]

Thanks for the explanation.  From what you posted before, it seemed like you were expecting another continental submersion this year (April 9th or thereabouts).  But it wasn't clear that's what you meant.  Can you clarify?

[Elijah]

My original prediction of 1983 was to ignore 2008-2009 as year 32 of Artaxerxes and trust in 1996-1997 as year 20 of Artaxerxes.
In doing so the alignment of Yom Kippur occurred of 455 BC with 1996 AD and i saw it as sacrifice. If so it seemed astral encounters at full moon would qualify as a Passover March 24. Though basically i was just going by the fact most lost unobserved asteroids occur at bright full moon light from the direction of the sun. When March 24 came I knew failure the week before. Anything could surprise me, and it did the comet closest approach to the sun that day and Heaven's Gate being Satan's version of the church's (24 people?) journey to heaven. But I gave up. I accepted alot of torture and lies on this 13 years and I equated it with the 13 years that Peter had to convince the church that circumcision was Jewish not Christian. Now another 12 years of Nehemiah? no thanx, rather beleive it could be 2000, but that was like Jonah where you could see all the people put new clocks in their computers.

So 2008-2009 approached, and i could predict a Yom Kippur sacrifice for 2008, but thats okay i'll wait to see. The asteroid date as Passover would be April 9. And I was amased to see the cheapest only possible way for me to check Ararat out was 33 days before it to 7 days after it. So I went as my way of accepting Ya Ha Wa Ha and meditate there. Mose helped much here by saying what will be I cannot escape if it be my role. Well sorry but this guy wants to renig on his prayer of 1983. Not sure my life was really extended that day, I was just bummed enough to sit in a room and starve to death, no one would have known for days until the smell.

Anyways, sacrifice of the church is what i beleive will save everyone from a surprise asteroid. Some one sacrificed three men sending them to Abram, and two were sacrificed then sent to Sodom. Would you go give warning in a place you truly believed will be destroyed the day youre there. The year is here, the month soon, the week soon, the day soon. Every person I meet I tell them I know this sounds crazy but if we get hit by an asteroid get to mounatins abouve 6000 feet within 7 days because the land goes  under the ocean for a year. Well down 5 months, up 12 months, so i say 5 months. I linked the nature of God forcing me with my financial situation... (USA monetary wise) he has given me work and has taken it away, I didnt expect a remodification on the loan to go thru. Happy it did. Not sure how it sets with what I do or not do for God. Jonah here, give me a little rope and i run. I have to explain in court July 20 why I wont judge anyone as a juror. Or postpone it again to go 40 days in Ararat (third try).

[notalent]

Thanks for clarifying.  I should have known you weren't claiming the earth would be destroyed by a flood again, against God's promise, since only the earth below 6000 ft or so will be destroyed this time.  Kinda cuts it close, though.  Maybe more righteous folk live at higher elevations by some law of nature anyway.  I don't know, but I'm guessing God has it sorted out in foresight.

There should be no problem getting out of jury duty.  The attorneys for both sides of a case are very good about listening to people's reasons for not wanting to serve.  However, you might have to wait hours or days in the waiting area before your jury pool sees a court room for voir dire (the actual selection process).

[Elijah]

Then perhaps I should book my Ararat before then. I still dont have faith I am accomplishing anything by going there and yet I have now looked at the mountain from both sides, Yerevan and Dogubayasit. What along word, Speaking of linguistics... I stayed at a hotel Ortadogu which means Middle East (Orta Dogu). Couldnt tell if they were saying Do-gu but the city some were calling Bazschit. Because it is East Bazschit. And it was difficult to know if I was headed there from Van which some said Vahn and others said Wahn and yet others said One. So too the word Dogu is apparently pronounced as Do -oo,  so that so say Do Bazschit and others say Doo Bazschit. Sigh.

Is it worth a man to do an insane trek for the chance that an asteroid will hit. Should he die. Soldiers are sent to war saying they will die for their country. Will I actually be dying for my country and God's kingdom which will next year dwell over the whole Earth with no borders if I declare that USA borders must be opened to those who are the holy ones gathered because the Freedom of Religion Proclamation of 1763 was honestly accepted by Britain as an Act Of God freezing Dutch Harbor in 2300 years after Daniel's death in 538 BC. And in so doing they granted to God Jehovah himself to establish his people in Britain and America with no infringement upon their worship to him. Now he calls all those of communion 10,000 world wide to the New City and Obama must let them in with Visa in respect for that Proclamation or Jehovah will regard it as a broken contract with God Almighty Himself. The Dutch gave New Amsterdam to Britain (all of New York) for that proclamation of freedom. Obama must now prove he respects that Christian freedom as much as he respects the back side of the hand of the King of Saudi.

This is why I am going to Ararat. I truly think 50/50 that I do not know whether Obama is obstinate like Pharaoh. Should I request for Jehovah, or does Jehovah demand it, his right. Do I be tactful like Nehemiah to , or do I declare Jehovah's threat as Moses did. Oh God I need Aaron right now, I dont care if he comes with a gold cow. Will it be actually easier for Armenia and Kurds who both wait for Eliha to come, and the Kurds say the Christians (Obama) will reject Christ. Or is he Moslem as these Kurds ask, saying he was born in Africa.
Either way, I think it is easier for Armenia and Kurds to open their border than it is for Obama to be told the bride of Christ seeks Visa for the New City. And Obama will indeed put the christ Bride into the New City.
Though I suspect I will not see it, for there are two goats for Yom Kippur, one is in the wilderness like John, and the other is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Like husband like wife, a proud husband handing his sceptor to Esther.
Richard Michael Schiller
of Kenosha Wisconsin
May Jehovah prove who his Elijah is.

[notalent]

You might save some money if a local mountain will serve just as well.  But I could see why you might prefer to be stranded on Ararat, since a whacking great lot of water up to 6000 feet would be the only way you'd be allowed to skip the formalities and go up it for a look around.  It's like that Far Side cartoon where two fishermen in a boat on a lake see mushroom clouds in the far distance, and one says to the other, "You know what this means, Norm...no size restrictions and screw the limit."

[Elijah]

No my intent on Ararat is dual fold, a sign for me from God by putting me inside the ark, and a political statement that would get me arrested. A toss up of whether who puts me to death, the Turks, or Guantamano..(aka USA). In 1983, I was accused of being against THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE.... the definition of whom Jesus has put his trust in that slave for feeding his sheep, rather than take it on a positive note as in yes we have looked thoroughly thru all matters and yes Jesus we are like Peter feeding your sheep. Instead, they look at is as authority granted, despite Paul saying YOU HAVE NOT (dared to) BEGUN RULING AS KINGS YET WITHOUT THE REST OF US HAVE YOU? and so say we rule and therefore we are feeding them merely on the obvious note who else is, no one else is, and we will make sure no one else does. Thus they accuse anything brought to the temple of Jehovah as actually being king Saul trying to sacirifice usurping their place instead of waiting for Samuel to do it. In prayer to Jehovah, I received to quoted scriptures from him, one being I will show you what you must bear and what you must go thru for my name (meaning a burden or weight so great that I couldnt imagine to prove what true faith is), and the other was I swore that I do not stand to replace them (the bride) as accused, but would so much as proudly ussher them into heaven. Well, I didnt realize it would mean setting up a sacrifice that kills them all. Such a position can be discreetly like John as a forerunner that kills me, or it can be egotistically angry and haughty and pissed off that in vengence it is like Judas causing it. And I do not wish to be Judas, I see Judas sitting there at the WatchTower because the WatchTower has what all schools and churches and businesses have, those who say I love this life we must keep this going so our preaching keeps bringing in this money. Such ones do not really see armageddon here, that would ruin the nice thrones they already sit on to make money. This is Judas who would kill those who say its time to go to heaven. Few people realize Judas expected Jesus to be arrested and go to jail. He did not know he was going to be the killer of  the christ by his fit of anger and pay back. Like Cain who was warned, but did not see how his anger could possibly hurt Abel, no human had ever died yet. And gee Cain proved they can die.

[notalent]

No my intent on Ararat is dual fold, a sign for me from God by putting me inside the ark,

When was the last sighting of the Ark?

Since it seems to not be visible at the moment, do you expect it to become visible so that you can find it and enter?

and a political statement that would get me arrested. A toss up of whether who puts me to death, the Turks, or Guantamano..(aka USA).

As far as I know, nobody has been killed in Guantanamo.  In fact, it's a lot nicer than US domestic prisons.

Even so, I can't remember when the USA put someone in prison for their religious beliefs.  Since you are non-violent and peaceful, it seems unlikely you would be imprisoned in America.

In 1983, I was accused of being against THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE....

But your accusers don't have civil authority.  They're all talk and no power over you physically, unless they want to break the law and attack you.

[Elijah]

When was the last sighting of the Ark?
Since it seems to not be visible at the moment, do you expect it to become visible so that you can find it and enter?

YOU TUBE (ark beam) 2002 Dec 2 (ark piece C)
presumed bottom floor,
and 2008 there is an ice cave outside the ark wall.
The ark wall of petrified wood is coated thick with
volcanic ash. They show like 5 seconds of scuba divers
in the cave water at ark piece B, presumed front half with bottom missing (hmm or is it back half).

As far as I know, nobody has been killed in Guantanamo.  In fact, it's a lot nicer than US domestic prisons. Even so, I can't remember when the USA put someone in prison for their religious beliefs.  Since you are non-violent and peaceful, it seems unlikely you would be imprisoned in America.

The point was whether Turkey ships me back if I go up there.

In 1983, I was accused of being against THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE....  But your accusers don't have civil authority.  They're all talk and no power over you physically, unless they want to break the law and attack you.

Such an accusation is like Peter walking beside Jesus and telling John that Peter as the one he loves most means John is disillusion saying no Jesus loves him most not Peter; accompanied by Peter adding the word but John youre against Jesus and you'll be the next to stick it to him, you dont follow him, I am following him right here, talking with him on the beach, and youre the one coming up after us. That doesnt make you a follower John, it makes you a stalker. How would you like being called a stalker of your own master by a fellow slave! So yeh Jesus had no civil authority, but we seem to beleive he rules, he decides if there is a forever. So the civil authority isnt the fear peole have, they fear condemnation by their religious church. The problem is the lowly no-good slaves go accusing their brothers in the name of the master... i dont condemn you and make you as dirt, our master does, we know our master and we can see you are not with him they say.

Great example is when Jacob  died, the record says the brothers lived life from that day onward saying they were only alive because Jacob was alive, and Joseph had to fear his father if he gets vengence on his brothers for the 13 years of slavery and attempted murder. They said to Joseph that now they had to fear him because Jacob their father was dead. Isnt that a sweet thing to hear every time you disagree... what are you gonna do kill us because of what we did to you. JWs do this in Kingdom Halls too, then they say you accuse them of not having the love Jesus claims they have if you say these things exist to resolve. Simply like Israel and like the apostles, is there peace, between them no, the peace is in you by knowing truth. The peace is also you can fight by tongue but never by sword. Few people realize that as good, they think it better to die in an actual fight.