Moses and the Exodus

[Michael]

Book seems very interesting, but doesn't seem to mention Judea or  Egypt. Hebrew derives from Egypt, which in turn comes from sub-Saraha Africa.
Nor did I see where he discusses the Metal Ages of this region. It is a concentration of Indo-European languages.

[Sekhmet]

 I don't believe James Pritchard would appreciate you calling him lazy.

Most excellent, excellent sir!  Thank you for disclosing your source James Pritchard.  Not having this knowledge before Michael, I was being cautious in calling the unknown as a redactor.  Redactors, sir tend to denote a more ancient time in history, at least to me.  I ask sir, is James Prichard the Dr. James Bennett Pritchard?  (Please see below.)

James B. Pritchard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I quote…”James Bennett Pritchard (October 4, 1909 – January 1, 1997) was an American archeologist whose work explicated the interrelationships of the religions of ancient Israel, Canaan, Egypt, Assyria, and Babylon….”

If he is, I can better assess your source.  I did not call him lazy sir, I am sorry I have to disagree with you on that.  I called the unknown source first a redactor and questioned the unknown ability.  Now assuming him to be Dr. James B. Pritchard, I can say he is expired and his work concerning the Sea Peoples outdated by newer studies such as The Phoenicians by Sabatino Moscati (Ed.) 1999 first published in 1997: the year of both of these two scholars death.  Dr. Moscati had a long history as a champion of the Semitic Phoenicians.  I will quote him again…from the above book, page 11.

“At this point it is not difficult to understand how, until about 25 years ago, the very existence of Phoenician studies constituted a subject for debate.”  Sabatino Moscati.

Now I can better understand this quote from Dr. Moscati, thank you and for reminding me, of Dr. Prichard, professor of religious thought and the first curator of Biblical archaeology at the Pennsylvania University Museum.  Myself sir, the choice of a Biblical archaeologist and professor of religious thought, is not the source I would use in dealing with a specific people.  Better in my, humble opinion to use the recognized, even if expired as well, an acknowledged expert in the specific field of interest.

Regarding Dagon, I would assert he is a forerunner to the classical Greek god Poseidon, god of sailors, traders, and the ocean.

Dagon the Fish-God

Please note the picture of Dagon, god of the Philistines- related to the classical Greeks as per my investigation has led me to conclude.

I do agree that the vernal equinox was an extremely important celebration of life in surviving the hardships of winter in all ancient cultures.

Again, a most excellent post Michael and thank you for it.

Please have a great day: to yours, as to all.

[Sekhmet]

My dear sir, Turanclancath!  Thank you for the links!

[Sekhmet]

Book seems very interesting, but doesn't seem to mention Judea or  Egypt. Hebrew derives from Egypt, which in turn comes from sub-Saraha Africa.
Nor did I see where he discusses the Metal Ages of this region. It is a concentration of Indo-European languages.

I agree with you on the lack of mention of Judea or Egypt in the work.  Be that as it may be, it does not infer that they are excluded.  Anthropology and archaeology makes it clear that they could have.  The lack of mentioning of the Near East makes it clear to me that many modern scholars are not going to tackle traditional mistakes of early archaeologists in their declarative statements regarding peoples they knew only from their Bibles.

I can say with hope of further challenges to the "traditional thoughts" that this year Dr. Hawass Egypt's Secretary General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities has started addressing the problem.  I am referring to his program on the reassessment of the 4th dynasty Pharaoh Djedefre long considered a murdering upstart.  Studies that are more current indicate he was not what generations were taught.  Thank you, Dr. Hawass!

To all a great day.

[Michael]

 I don't believe James Pritchard would appreciate you calling him lazy.

Most excellent, excellent sir!  Thank you for disclosing your source James Pritchard.  Not having this knowledge before Michael, I was being cautious in calling the unknown as a redactor.  Redactors, sir tend to denote a more ancient time in history, at least to me.  I ask sir, is James Prichard the Dr. James Bennett Pritchard?  (Please see below.)

James B. Pritchard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I quote…”James Bennett Pritchard (October 4, 1909 – January 1, 1997) was an American archeologist whose work explicated the interrelationships of the religions of ancient Israel, Canaan, Egypt, Assyria, and Babylon….”

If he is, I can better assess your source.  I did not call him lazy sir, I am sorry I have to disagree with you on that.  I called the unknown source first a redactor and questioned the unknown ability.  Now assuming him to be Dr. James B. Pritchard, I can say he is expired and his work concerning the Sea Peoples outdated by newer studies such as The Phoenicians by Sabatino Moscati (Ed.) 1999 first published in 1997: the year of both of these two scholars death.  Dr. Moscati had a long history as a champion of the Semitic Phoenicians.  I will quote him again…from the above book, page 11.

“At this point it is not difficult to understand how, until about 25 years ago, the very existence of Phoenician studies constituted a subject for debate.”  Sabatino Moscati.

Now I can better understand this quote from Dr. Moscati, thank you and for reminding me, of Dr. Prichard, professor of religious thought and the first curator of Biblical archaeology at the Pennsylvania University Museum.  Myself sir, the choice of a Biblical archaeologist and professor of religious thought, is not the source I would use in dealing with a specific people.  Better in my, humble opinion to use the recognized, even if expired as well, an acknowledged expert in the specific field of interest.

Regarding Dagon, I would assert he is a forerunner to the classical Greek god Poseidon, god of sailors, traders, and the ocean.

Dagon the Fish-God

Please note the picture of Dagon, god of the Philistines- related to the classical Greeks as per my investigation has led me to conclude.

I do agree that the vernal equinox was an extremely important celebration of life in surviving the hardships of winter in all ancient cultures.

Again, a most excellent post Michael and thank you for it.

Please have a great day: to yours, as to all.

Dagon is both a fish and grain god worshipped by both the Phiistines and Phoenecians.  His star is represented in the Southern Fish. This star not only represented Dagon, the temple destroyed by Samson, but also represented the winter equinox in the early Bronze Age. Coincedental that the blinded sun-god Samson (Samson from Shamash) would pull down the temple of Dagon after he had his hair cut off and blinded (signs of the winter equinox for a solar diety.).  I claim they are related in a larger cosmic tale.

Other writers later connect Dagon with Oannes, the fish god, who some claim was the basis for the story of John the Baptist.

In any case the fish god and symbol became popular again circa 200 BCE as the vernal equinox moved into the zodiac sign of Pisces. The lamb would give way to the two fish.  The sign of the 2 fish was used by early Christians in the catacombs of Rome and was used as a floor decoration at the oldest known Christian prayer hall at Meggido.

HEY, IS THAT THE SIGN OF PISCES ON THE FLOOR!!!!

for Christians & Messianic Jews - Megiddo Mosaic, incribed:  To God Jesus Christ

[turanclancath]

Dear Forum Friends .

Of course    ,the book doesnt  study Mesopotamia ,Egypt Judea etc  .

See the description in the link 403.
The book  studies proto Indo European and the relation with horse wheel ,chariot.

So it sticks to its subject !   Thats academic very good.Stick to your subject in paper and in Dr Dissertation alike

Its an  elaboration of Gimbutas Kurgan theory .


The horse , chariot , wheel etc in Egypt ,Judea etc would be  another book in another time frame .

Perhaps for one of us Or together a paper ? We are so learned after all .

Turanclancath

[turanclancath]

the necrology of Prof Sabbatino Moscati .
A great Scholar and Human !

Sabatino Moscati, Linguist, Is Dead at 74  - New York Times


and here on Google his master work about the Phunicians


to my surprise it is already 20 years old ( first Italian edition 1988 )


Are there newer books ?

403 Forbidden


and her a short bibliography  on Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=sabatino+moscati&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&redirs=0


Turanclancath

[Sekhmet]

Deuteronomy 31:14-16; 32:48-52; 34:1-7.  For those who do not remember or do not know the verses listed pertain to the death of Moses.

It is these verses that since the earliest acceptance of Biblical texts in Jewish and Christian societies (post 311 C.E.).  That we find objections surfacing that Moses ‘could not have written the account of his own death.’  It is only logical to agree with this assessment.  That is unless one is familiar, with a type of Egyptian text that had been forgotten until the late 19th century C.E.  This is the literary work of an author writing of his own death with the Instructions of Amenemhet I , providing the best evidence of this writing technique dating to the early Middle Kingdom.

Please see Writing, of Miracles, and Exodus

Can we reason that with commonality of miracles and the technique of the so-called author writing of his own death?  All dating to and prior to the 12th dynasty of Egypt, shows us that by dating the Patriarchs earlier than tradition allows, is possibly the solution to finding them?

[Elijah]

Ignoring the many current chronologies from all of us inspired newcomers in the world of internet millions of authors succeeding the hundreds of former favored revered writers by publishers and universities, and considering onlhy those authors preceding 1700 AD, the chronologies clearly indicate a correlation between the year of Peleg's death as being the same as the death year of Unas (5th dynasty). I refuse to give 10-page details anymore; it wont change anyone's mind.

But rather I now precede to the next comment, that the calendar was created 340 years after Flood and is a Middle Kingdom creation. Though 340 years after such Flood years . . .
[ as Egypt 3090 BC (Ramses 1290 BC found in the 280 BC Septuagint), and Greek 2958 BC (derived in 776 BC found in the 280 BC Septuagint), and agrees with Moslem 3122 BC (derived in 622 AD) and Mayan 3114 BC (Copan 1313 BC) ]
. . . does claim Old Kingdom for the 365-day calendar, according to Richard Parker there is no texts existing of Old KIngdom dates; they are all Middle Kingdom. Placing 340 years after Floods such as 2400 BC /2370 BC /2349 BC will all fall at Peleg's death beginning the Middle Kingdom. Such calendar to be Sothic July 12 Thebes or July 17 Memphis must start with Phamenoth instead of Thoth. Though Though immediately gains winter solstice status in 2000 BC as Jan 6 as the first day of seasonal year.

People forget that from Adam bickering with Eve and then Cain bickering with Abel, the bible issue is that of truth and lie (not just right and wrong) and this then leads to Moses as right when a whole country with its kings and priests and schools are wrong while one man Moses is right. Now the question then arises are each of you new scholars now to be the new truth while the whole world wrong. I do not deny the bible the claim that the whole world is all wrong, I argue which one of us single individuals is right. Do not ask me if it is me, because I have no answer other than God proves, does prove, and will prove.

Carbon-14 says the tombs of Ur are 2030 BC though the bible indicates that suicide followed the year after Peleg died when Nahor called his grandson Haran back to Ur to be part of it with him. Creating dates back to 7000 BC is easily done since the carbon is less for every decade back to the Flood. Jericho has a false 7000 BC for its 2237 BC.

As for Abram, his life of 75 years contrasts the 75 Egyptian years and 76 Sothic years (Julian) for the moon (3x 25 = 3x309m, and 4x 19 = 4x 235m). In doing so the probilities of comparing leap days exists best with the 365-day calendar, as well as the 25 year lunar calendar is useless in dates of 360 days. This is every indication that Abram used the 365-day calendar that we find only as Middle KIngdom dates and no Old Kingdom dates exist of. Again this then places Abram after 2030 BC, and Jacob /Joseph in the days of Hamurabi. Confirmation of Jacob fathering Judah when Nimrod dies in ADam's year 2256 at age 500 is 1770 BC; confirmation of Jacob leaving Syria in 1761 BC after he hears Mari has been conquered by Hamurabi; confirmation of his then giving Judah's favor as king of kings (replacing Nimrod's death in 1770 BC) over to Joseph with a coat at age 17 when in 1750 BC Hamurabi then dies as king of kings. The November 1 ALL SAINTS DAY of 360-day new year (Noah's calendar year 944 in 2031 BC) is transferred to Pharaoh and Joseph when in 1738 BC the Thoth 1 date leaps back to Nov 1 promising 7 years before famine. The law of Moses accurately prophecies and predicts that a 7th year squeezed out of land will produce famine, and so must lie cropless to grow wild and restore minerals. Otherwise a famine will and does begin in 1730 BC. Iin the Seder Olam with year 2105 BC as Flood it assumes 292 to Abram's birth and this additional 83 years to the year Abram takes Hagar and affiliates it with famine in the land. All chronologies will cross on exact years that then claim a different event or different definition of same event. This is the only reason I bring up the Seder here to show you that mistakes are confirmations in reverse.

Thus as some will insist it be 400-430 years from Joseph to exodus, they ignore that the span is not in Egypt but that of being aliens in any country including Canaan. They also ignore that the mass population is not that of procreating their own family or genes or flesh, but rather of being and proving to be the slavation of other aliens already in those countries who will now be saved by leaving with them and declaring themselves to be citizens of Israel. This is why both are correct, Hyksos are not Israel they were there first, and Hyksos are Israel, they were saved by Israel by leaving with them. Thus it is not a matter of procreating your own church but includes pride in conversion of others. Further, those who migrated out at the time of slavery at the birth of Aaron /Moses are not massive enough to be regarded as the Hyksos expulsion and yet indeed they left long ago before Israel. The record states they left in the 518th year (being 517 years from Peleg's death when they entered until the Exodus 2030-1513 BC). This is dated by Greece /Rome as Toth 1 on Sep 6 of 1514 BC because they presume the Epagum days were not moved and did begin on September 1. Instead the days were in March before Pamenoth, omitted March 4 in 1513 BC (but not by Persia) and placed on August 31. (Persia's epagum falls on Sep 5 five days later because they did not omit March 4, and so this secondary civil calendar shifted 5 days from Egypt sets on a shelf until Artaxerxes enforces it in 474 BC and Zoroaster in 388 BC (though moving the five epagum days from Thoth to Koyak; reiterated as moving the five Gatha days from Deh to Furvurdeen).

[notalent]

They also ignore that the mass population is not that or procreating their own family or genes or flesh, but rather of being and proving to be the slavation of other aliens already in those countries who will now be saved by leaving with them and declaring themselves to be citizens of Israel. This is why both are correct, Hyksos are not Israel they were there first, and Hyksos are Israel, they were saved by Israel by leaving with them. Thus it is not a matter of procreating your own church but includes pride in conversion of others. Further, those who migrated out at the time of slavery at the birth of Aaron /Moses are not massive enough to be regarded as the Hyksos expulsion and yet indeed they left long ago before Israel. The record states they left in the 518th year (being 517 years from Peleg's death when they entered until the Exodus 2030-1513 BC). This is dated by Greece /Rome as Toth 1 on Sep 6 of 1514 BC because they presume the Epagum days were not moved and did begin on September 1. Instead the days were in March before Pamenoth, omitted March 4 in 1513 BC (but not by Persia) and placed on August 31. (Persia's epagum falls on Sep 5 five days later because they did not omit March 4, and so this secondary civil calendar shifted 5 days from Egypt sets on a shelf until Artaxerxes enforces it in 474 BC and Zoroaster in 388 BC (though moving the five epagum days from Thoth to Koyak; reiterated as moving the five Gatha days from Deh to Furvurdeen).

Your understanding of the Hyksos will be greatly improved if you examine Balaam's prophecy regarding Agag.  Why would Agag (Amalek) be spoken of as the greatest power in the region?  The reason is that while Israel was leaving Egypt (the recently greatest power), they encountered Amalek on the way into Egypt, resulting in the famous skirmish in Exodus.  Amalek would go on into Egypt to fill the power vacuum left in the wake of the shattering plagues and the obliteration of Egyptian military power in the Yam Suf debacle.  With Amalek controlliing the resources of Egypt, they become the regional superpower.

Thus Amalek are the alien Kings of Egypt, whose power will not be broken until Saul and David's campaigns against them at the command of Samuel, after which they are weakend enough to allow the Egyptians to finally kick them out.

The reason that the wider world does not know that Amalek=Hyksos, is because of the prophecy that God would erase the memory of Amalek from history.

[Elijah]

Wow, I appreciate the info and since I never heard of this before, I will believe it as fact until further corrected by someone else. May I add then that Hyksos is a generic term for invaders or foreignors or unwanted intrusion. I do not think it is conquest not take over, just intrusion.

Again I repeat that with Giza as the foundation of Egypt in 2170 BC 200 years after the Flood, that the first Hyksos are both Hitite and Chaldean at Peleg's death. The evidence is todays scholars say Hitites and Genesis indicates Chaldeans from Ur. The merge is logical because Gilagamesh himself is from the Chaldean river valley and he heads to the Hitites in Ararat before being told to cross the sea to widower  Noah's new island home. This alone defines a migration that goes from Sumer to Ararat and then to Canaan and onward be it Cyprus or Salem or Egypt.
     Figures to verify this are Egyptian Septuagint counting 768 years from end of Flood 3089 BC to Peleg's death in 2321 BC, contrasted to true chronology and we have slavery at Aaron's birth 768 years after the Flood 2370 BC in 1601-1600 BC labeled by the Greek Septuagint as Adams year 3600 and as fall of 300-year Babylon (presumed as 1900-1600 BC, the true figures are 1894-1594 BC as the birth of Moses, and the 8-year cycle Venus tablets end in 1626-1625 BC as year 2400 AM not 1602-1601 BC as year 3600 AM). The point ibeing a record of Hyksos migration in the year of slavery is being affiliated with Peleg's death year by ignoring that the one of Peleg was into Egypt and the one of slavery was out of Egypt. It is the old argument of you didnt ditch us, we threw you out. And you didnt come to us with gifts to join us but rather you intruded.
     Thus Hyksos intruding into Egypt in 2030 BC (Peleg died), out of Egypt in 1601 BC, Moses flees 1554 BC and regarded as expelled confused with Moses and Israel and Hyksos leaving in 1513 BC. Now we have your Hyksos intruding into fallen Egypt, and I feel my eyes opened to beleive you in awe. Yes, I can see where that would be and all you said could be, and I would want to know more. This would lead to confusion of some seeing Hyksos before Israel and others seeing Hyksos after Israel and indeed confuse 1513 BC and 1313 BC as 200 years Hyksos with the whole world divided in who came first, who left first, who was before who and who left after who. Another case of saying you're all right, and yet all merged and mixed it is also saying you're all wrong. I hope I did my part of asisting here. But of course you do not beleive Ramses eccorted Amelek out because you do say it was at the word of Samuel to do so, who lived 98 years (1177-1079 BC), being 4 when Jepthah won battle in 1173 BC, and being 5 when given to the priests and then hearing the voice of Jehovah thru the tent wall (Jepthah's daughter narking on Eli's sons) in 1172 BC, at 60 anointing Saul as king in 1117 BC (year confirmed by Eusebius, also year of kingship confirmed by Josephus though he says it was David 40 then Solomon ruling 80), anoints David to be king but dies in 1079 BC when he is 98 and David is 28 two years before becoming king in 1077 BC. Thus obviously any Hyksos in Egypt cleared out by Samuel's word occurs 173 years (1290-1117 BC) after Ramses.
I am curious as to the manner of this. And where and how was there success during these 38 years of Saul from 1117-1079 BC of handling Agag Amelek in regards Egypt. You have my attention. Fill me in.

[notalent]

Wow, I appreicate the info and since I never heard of this before, I will believe it as fact until further corrected by someone else. May I add then that Hyksos is a generic term for invaders or foreignors or unwanted intrusion. I do not think it is conquest not take over, just intrusion.

Again I repeat that with Giza as the foundation of Egypt in 2170 BC 200 years after the Flood, that the first Hyksos are both Hitite and Chaldean at Peleg's death. The evidence is todays scholars say Hitites and Genesis indicates Chaldeans from Ur. The merge is logical because Gilagamesh himself is from the Chaldean river valley and he heads to the Hitites in Ararat before being told to cross the sea to widower  Noah's new island home. This alone defines a migration that goes from Sumer to Ararat and then to Canaan and onward be it Cyprus or Salem or Egypt.
     Figures to verify this are Egyptian Septuagint counting 768 years from end of Flood 3089 BC to Peleg's death in 2321 BC, contrasted to true chronology and we have slavery at Aaron's birth 768 years after the Flood 2370 BC in 1601-1600 BC labeled by the Greek Septuagint as Adams year 3600 and as fall of 300-year Babylon (presumed as 1900-1600 BC, the true figures are 1894-1594 BC as the birth of Moses, and the 8-year cycle Venus tablets end in 1626-1625 BC as year 2400 AM not 1602-1601 BC as year 3600 AM). The point ibeing a record of Hyksos migration in the year of slavery is being affiliated with Peleg's death year by ignoring that the one of Peleg was into Egypt and the one of slavery was out of Egypt. It is the old argument of you didnt ditch us, we threw you out. And you didnt come to us with gifts to join us but rather you intruded.
     Thus Hyksos intruding into Egypt in 2030 BC (Peleg died), out of Egypt in 1601 BC, Moses flees 1554 BC and regarded as expelled confused with Moses and Israel and Hyksos leaving in 1513 BC. Now we have your Hyksos intruding into fallen Egypt, and I feel my eyes opened to beleive you in awe. Yes, I can see where that would be and all you said could be, and I would want to know more. This would lead to confusion of some seeing Hyksos before Israel and others seeing Hyksos after Israel and indeed confuse 1513 BC and 1313 BC as 200 years Hyksos with the whole world divided in who came first, who left first, who was before who and who left after who. Another case of saying you're all right, and yet all merged and mixed it is also saying you're all wrong. I hope I did my part of asisting here. But of course you do not beleive Ramses eccorted Amelek out because you do say it was at the word of Samuel to do so, who lived 98 years (1177-1079 BC), being 4 when Jepthah won battle in 1173 BC, and being 5 when given to the priests and then hearing the voice of Jehovah thru the tent wall (Jepthah's daughter narking on Eli's sons) in 1172 BC, at 60 anointing Saul as king in 1117 BC (year confirmed by Eusebius, also year of kingship confirmed by Josephus though he says it was David 40 then Solomon ruling 80), anoints David to be king but dies in 1079 BC when he is 98 and David is 28 two years before becoming king in 1077 BC. Thus obviously any Hyksos in Egypt cleared out by Samuel's word occurs 173 years (1290-1117 BC) after Ramses.
I am curious as to the manner of this. And where and how was there success during these 38 years of Saul from 1117-1079 BC of handling Agag Amelek in regards Egypt. You have my attention. Fill me in.

Well, I'm just going by the Bible here.  One must explain why Agag is used as the measure of power in Numbers 24:7.  The explanation is that Amalek now rules the resources of Egypt.  They have filled the superpower vacuum there.

As to Ramases, there is strong evidence that it was he who sacked Jerusalem during the reign of Rehoboam.  Shalem is on his list of great cities subjugated on his campaign into palestine.  No other Pharoah claims to have sacked Shalem, EVER.  Shishak may be a Hebrew pun on Ramases' hypocoristicon, SS (sisa), which is rendered in Hebrew SHSH (SHISHA).  The hard suffix makes the word mean something in Hebrew, one of which is "crusher".

There are several Egyptologists who support this opinion, which of course, undermines the conventional understanding of Egyptian chronology.  Ramases is displaced several hundred years forward in time.  We should not wonder that this should be so, since to believe the conventional chronology would put Pharoahs in Egypt before the flood.

It is pretty certain that Shishak is NOT Shoshenq, and that the identification as such, apart from the similar sound of the name, is completely arbitrary.

[Elijah]

I disagree, Shishak is Sheshonq and ruled about 54 years earlier than secular claims; secular only accepts the astronomy they choose to and not all the myths which describe astronomy. It is so easy for them to say oh this is not astronomy, it is just story of mythical pagan gods to worship. The Division is 997 BC, the Tamuz confirms it as July 10. It is clear we live in the decade of the new Babel all confused and free for all. Where there is no unity there is now two sides the good and evil but rather a pool of each one being a liar with his own truth. I can see where Jesus said make up your minds as hot or cold, for or against, because I'll spit you out as luke warm. It is easier to correct and convert a wrong man than an undecided man. I do not advocate self-chronology. My chronology is not my chronology it is based on previous skeletal structures 100s and 1000s of years old.

[notalent]

I disagree, Shishak is Sheshonq and ruled about 54 years earlier than secular claims; secular only accepts the astronomy they choose to and not all the myths which describe astronomy....The Division is 997 BC, the Tamuz confirms it as July 10.

Papyrus Leiden I.350, which dates to the 52nd year of Ramesses II, records lunar observations that seem to support that year of Ramesses' reign in one of 1278, 1253, 1228 or 1203 BC. But, having questioned the value of the Ebers Papyrus, David Rohl argues that since these lunar observations are accurate every twenty-five years, they could also indicate dates 300 years later.

Shoshenq records no campaigns in the hill country of Judea.  Instead, he bypasses them and conquers along the coast and into the northern kingdom.  If Shoshenq had sacked the most famous capital of them all, Solomon's Jerusalem, he would have recorded this.  Instead, Ramases II records this in two places, one listed as Shalem, the other without comment (because it needed none, it was so spectacular), carved in gigantic detail as the crowning achievement of his campaign.

It turns out that many of the kings and dynasties are ruling concurrently (upper and lower Egypt), and not consecutively as Manetho claimed.  This is only now being proven to be true, particularly with the impossible physical juxtaposition of the tombs of Osorkon I and Psusennes I at Tanis.  There is simply no getting around the fact that this physical evidence scientifically falsifies a significant portion of accepted Egyptian chronology.  The result "drags" everyone before them (including Ramases) forward in time.  There simply is no escape from this conclusion.

[Elijah]

They are not accurate every 25 years. For example, the new moon which started the calendar according to Genesis on 2030 BC July 12 when Sothis appears in Thebes will not remain there. [This date is epagum 1 according to Genesis and 5 days before Pamenot 1 on July 17, however Pamenot is not accepted by scholars as having shifted 5 days and so the date July 12 that year is calculated as Pamenot 1 instead of Epagum 1; so too the eclipse 6 months later on Jan 6 of 2029 BC is Mesor 24 seven days before Toth 1, but with secular scholars of the belief that Thoth 1 on Jan 13 was always new year will then insert the epagum days there instead so that Jan 6 is Mesor 29.] It matters not which moon you use 2030 BC July 12 or 2029 BC Jan 6; we can for sake of avoiding arguing with schools, they can call these dates Pamenot 1 and Mesor 29 (instead of Genesis Epagum 1 and Mesor 24). Now count 300 years (12x 25 years x 365 days = 12x 309m or 3708 lunar months) to
1730 BC Pamenot 1 =Apr 28
Mesor 29= Oct 23 (absent new moon =Oct 22)
and again to 1430 BC Pamenot 1 =Feb 12 (nm=Feb11)
Mesore 29 = Aug 9 (absent new moon =Aug 8 )
and again to 1131 BC Pamenot 1 =Nov 29 (nm=Nov 28)
Mesor 29 =1130 BC May 26 (absent new moon is May 24)

AS IS THE CASE with any lunar date, as they drift from the artificial calendar then the scholar can say oh it was the last crescent, nope it was the absent moon, no they went by 1st crescent or 2nd cresent. Yes cultures do have a tendency to keep calendar and let the astral sun or moon or planet drift and thus create a new definition; but the scholar of the current present or of the future isn't the divine seer who knows the true drift or whether changes were made or not. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT NONE OF THESE CALENDARS HOLD TRUE to real astronomy, and I am taking the side of truth or astronomy that has gotten our men on the moon or satellites to Saturn and stationary orbits for cell phones. (This is not to say that records of the past cannot correct some error of modern astronomy, obvious if we did have an effect by Noah and Moses and Joshua and Hezekiah etc.)
BUT OF COURSE YOU FEEL I AM IN MY OWN  REALM OF ASTRONOMY IF I DONT GO DIRECTLY INTO THIS TOPIC OF RAMSES and so let's Google it. And after dozens of mismatches and irrelevent magic texts and dozens of claims without listing these lunar dates, I find it . . .

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=177754;article=8977;title=The%20Ancient%20Near%20Eastern%20Chronology%20Forum

So now 51 years (to 52nd year)
for the date II prt 27 (this date is Mekir 27)
and with my astronomy program I verify the dates below
as all being Mekir 27.

Example of 8 dates that could be year 52.
(My pref is 51 years from year 1 -52 is 1290-1239 BC). The author of this link thinks 1239 BC must be ruled out for 1228 BC but I recall astral encounter in Hezekiah's year that can account for the 10 minutes that the author feels prevents the qualification of year 1239 BC.)

1313 BC Jan 10   or 1302 BC Jan  7
1288 BC Jan 3     or 1278 BC Dec 31
1264 BC Dec 28   or 1253 BC Dec 25
1239 BC Dec 22   or 1228 BC Dec 19.

Now I would like to point out that tradition and Septuagint indicate that 1290-1239 BC is the better match to Genesis chronology (creating the Papyrus Canon as year 1800 from Flood of 3090 BC). However, here it claims that the moon creates a problem of 10 minutes which makes the span of 1279-1228 BC. But might I say 8 years after Samaria was destroyed in 740 BC in Hezekiah's year 6, that in Hezekiah's year 14 the sun went back 10 minutes in the summer of 732 BC from a comet taking up stationary orbit for one day and its cyanide killing the 185,000 Assyrians. Due to the sun backing up 10 minutes it would have risen in 1239 BC, 20 minutes before the moon instead of 10 minutes. I realize if the Earth backs up not in rotation but in visual apparent rotation that the moon will apear to back up too, (debatable since we have the object that causes it as changing the focal point of two objects Earth & moon into a temporary focal point of three objects and this object is in stationary orbit of Earth but on what side during the effect, is it between moon & Earth or opposite the moon, and is it the sun that is backing up or just shadows because the light is actually from the comet instead. A bright fly-by can be brighter than the sun and move shadows back without changing astronomy by 10 minutes.)

I recall recently reading somewhere of a record that states the sun rose and then backed up to rise a second time. If such a record exists then to fit scientifically with Hezekiah's noon sun then the event a such a sunrise would have to occur west of Jerusalem such as England or Spain where sunrise occurs during late morning of Jerusalem.