Exodus was the April full moon of 1513 BC

[Elijah]

Exodus was the April full moon of 1513 BC

The Egyptian new year Pamenot 1 of 1514 BC
preceded the comet approach which started many plagues
globally all over (predictable enhancements in Egypt
because of drifted calendar and religious agricultural laws
bound to it)
that Pamenot 1 new year was in Julian March
which is Gregorian Feb and so the Pamenot 1 that started
in July 2030 BC had already drifted back earlier than the
spring equinox. For this reason the month that Moses
declared as Nisan was not legal Nisan which was to
remain in Pamenot July 2030 BC,
Nisan in Pamenot Jun 1910 BC,
Nisan in Pamenot May 1790 BC,
Nisan in Pamenot April 1670 BC (Gregorian March)
Nisan Pamenot in Julian March 1550 BC (Gregorian Feb)

So Moses was declaring that Pamenot Nisan of 1513 BC
was to be an Adar II and that Nisan would be in
Parmuti where it had never been since Egyptian calendar
inauguration in 2030 BC (July 17), nor since lunar inauguration
in 2018 BC... (brought to Egypt by 75 year od Abram in 1943 BC)
the last year of Shulgi of Ur and 1st year of 12th dynasty.
A fix 19-year cycle to replace the 25-year would not be
declared until Joshua's last year 1443 BC, and Babylon also
did so at Joshua's death in 1442 BC.

So 1513 BC was the first Nisan ever occurring in the month
Parmuti instead of Pamenot, to keep Nisan in Julian April
(Gregorian March) and prevent it from going back into
Julian March (Gregorian Feb). For this reason the traditional
Julian March equinox is from the future centuries when our
Gregorian March would drift into near-equal proximity to
Julian March (700-200 BC).

And so the parting of the red Sea two days after Passover
was in April of 1513 BC. In fact Noah's new year was April 15.
2370 BC Oct 12
2233 BC Oct 12  (139x 360 days)
2161 BC Sep 24
2089 BC Sep 6
2017 BC Aug 19
1945 BC Aug 1
1873 BC July 14
1801 BC Jun 26
1729 BC Jun 8
1657 BC May 21
1585 BC May 3
1513 BC April 15

Julian minus 14 is GREGORIAN for 1500s BC
1514 BC Epagum 1 = Mar 5;  Pamenot 1 = Mar 10
              Parmuti 1 = Apr 9
              Noah's new year April 21 is Parmuti 13
1513 BC Pamenot 1 = Mar 4 (no longer Epagum 1)
      new Parmuti  1 = Apr 3
      new Parmuti 10 = Apr 12
FULL MOON APRIL 13, new Parmuti 11 (old Parmuti 6).
Noahs new year on April 15 is Parmuti 13 (old Parmuti .

137 Julian = 139; plus 720 = 730 x 360 days = 857 years
as 869 of Noahs 360 days. Plus year 600 as Flood makes it year 1469.
It would seem they crossed the Red Sea on Noah's 360-day new year
1469 which was Nisan 16 two days after full moon Passover.
Now what i am not sure of is whether the words of Moses at that time
saying this is the 1st day of the year for you, this is the 10th day you must
prepare the sheep, this is the 14th day you must stay unleavened for 7 days until the 21st day etc. ARE these all Nisan dates? or is the 1st or 10th some how equal in another calendar to this 14th day they held Passover.

Flood's 7th month of year 600 in Apr 2369 BC (600.5)
plus 869x 360 days as 857 years.

The dates from 2233 BC until prior to 1513 BC
are all new Parmuti 12 because 73x 360 days =
72x 365 days so that despite the 365-day calendar
not existing before 2030 BC, the past 720 years back
to 2233 BC have still drifted or flip-flopped 180 days
in both calendars experiencing 18 leap days for each
72-year cycle. So now either this is coincidence that they didnt
listen to the Sothic facts in 2233 BC, or God himself taught
them such results by the event of 1513 BC.
But they superticiously connected Sothic cycles with
arrival of asteroid and comet impacts, instead of learning that
the penalty or disaster (separation from stars) was their
negligence and incompetence for not acting on calendar knowlege
they already had, for 720 years.
But then we seem to have a God who already knows we will be
this way, and he expects the 6 billion to die for the way they
choose to be. Daniel says desolation is what has been decided on
to teach the lesson until the sanctuary is cleaned.

[Michael]

Interesting, except Moses conquered Heshbon, an Iron Age city which could not have existed before 1100 BCE.

Joshua, who conquered Jericho and Ai. Those cities were destroyed in the Early Bronze Age.

[Elijah]

Interesting, except Moses conquered Heshbon, an Iron Age city which could not have existed before 1100 BCE.
Joshua, who conquered Jericho and Ai. Those cities were destroyed in the Early Bronze Age.

Jericho was first to be conquered (?) during the 6 years
1473-1467 BC which is honored by Rome and Babylon as
Jewish claim to being New Chaldea. Do understand that all
seek to be New Chaldea to replace the fallen 3rd dynasty Chaldea
that Abram deserted and predicted would fall.
The prediction is in concept a well-deserved cycle and recycle
of new city going bad and being replaced by new city.
We have New City(s) all over the earth in religious context
of being God's New City. The recycling is confused with the star
Sothis and this is why we have 180 leap days from
1473 BC to Roman 753 BC where Rome decides it is the New City.
And it is why we have  the same 180 leap days from 1467 BC
to when Babylon claims it in 747 BC is the New City.
The fact that Salem was conquered in 1468 BC is an azimuth
relation of 400 Gregorian years from Shem Melchizedek's death
in 1868 BC. Jericho falling in 1473 BC means nothing because
obviously many have built it, it existed as a new city and old city
in the days of Jesus.
Another NOTHING is Hesbon, the fact that it is an iron city
in 1100 BC doesn't mean it wasn't at the time of king Saul
(1117-1077 BC).
Again 1513 BC is verified by the 360 leap days from
Chinese Flood 2953 BC (1440 years) in which 180 leap days
are honored as Ur in 2233 BC...720 years. And it remains
Sothic in 360 days as Moses says is 137 +720 = 857 years
to exodus. (137 Julian = 2370-2233 BC = 139x 360 days)
The Greek version of Septuagint agrees with an exodus
at 1513-1511 BC. Explosions of Thera Atlantis has been dated
by others as 1514 BC.
Everything can be argued and is argued, and the truth eventually
comes out to shut up the liars who i find always then deny they
ever claimed their previous views and advocated (even shoved) them on everyone else.

You claim that Joshua conquered Bronze cities before Moses conquered an iron city, when in fact Joshua began after Moses died in 1473 BC.

[Michael]

I am just telling you what archaeology claims. The stone walls of Jericho fell in te Early Bronze Age. The attackers used local shrubs and started a fire whose heat cracked the walls and brought them down. The burnt remains can be C-14 dated. Likewise Ai fell about the same time.

The fact that Heshbon is an Iron Age city is very important. This means for the Bible to be true, the Exodus could not have occured before 1140 BCE.

The digs at Jericho indicates the Exodus must have occured over a 1000 years earlier.

There is something amiss with the text. Any Exodus theory must take that into consideration.

[Elijah]

I am not opposed to solving puzzles and riddles, but the faith in truth comes before the answer to the puzzle, not the other way around trusting everyone's intepretation (a mixed soup) in the beleif that any new method or perception is the new truth.

Carbon 14 back to 2030 BC is accurate and has been altered by the tree scale to please archeologists. I regard science as from God, and I trust the science above any school that existed before the science was delved into.
To me the archeologists are like Catholics and the science is like Protestants. Those here first expecting latter to obey their foundation. People scoff the bible by saying evolution is the new science (just as they scoff the bible to say their early archeology is the new science) and yet they will force new science to appease the founding fathers of schools.
Don't hold fast to bible when science comes, but do hold fast to founding fathers when science comes. It is very distrubing to me and an offence to see and know that Egypt is conformed to 587 BC Babylon, and Israel then conformed to that Egypt, and then carbon 14 during kings of Israel altered by trees in the name of correction. A wave up and down is formed to appease the path from 587 BC back to Abram (12th dynasty Egypt).

It is to be snubbed as professional childish behavior and favortism not one drop better than the shame of the Catholic foundation of 1000 -1800 years.
The advance of man is slow and hindered not by church but by power and a slavery of others to make upper classes richer on the broken backs, the health, and deaths of the innocent and the poor.

You of course see me a fool when i beleive physical resurrection will prove the chronology. But you fail to miss the point that it verifies rejection while all the evidence was here. Stubborn resistance by humans, and the result of being millions of deaths thruout history until the change God wants results in their negligence and 6 billion deaths.

I do realize that all that i say is within a scope of things i already see and already know, the things of which i cannot paint a picture for you in a single page. No, of course it takes educating you just as our children are pumped many years of what they are told to beleive... and yes if it is truth, this pumping of info sinks in and they do see it. But wait, then if i have truth, does it not take the same pumping year after year befor eyou see it. Yes it could click in a day to see it. But we dont know what will trigger that idea that water was the wawa you would ask for before Ann Sullivan came along to beat it into you.

[Michael]

I am not sure what you mean. Are you against C-14 dating because it must have adjustments due to variations of C-14 levels throughout time due to solar activity?

I certainly trust credible archaeologists interpretations before a lay person who believes all interpretations must conform to an unproven text filled with myths and miracles. For me, I place reason over faith.

I believe archaeologists have the intellect to tell the difference between a piece of bronze and a piece of iron.

If we suppose science is of God, what does that have to do with the Bible being correct or incorrect? Have we proven a relatonship between the real God, and the God man created in the Bible? I have not seen any evidence that God has anything with human history, let alone the fanciful tales in the Bible.

[Elijah]

It takes trust and faith in any theory, whether it be a trust in truth, or a trust in something you're not smart enough to see as absurd myth. But dont be deceived. Just as (1) truth can be laughed at and called myth such as a global disaster that drops a water canopy and lifts the oceans up 11,000 feet by dropping the plates, so too (2) truth as in metphor can be called myth for example a date where the planet Mars and Venus merge (Venus passing over Mars) can be come some mythical wedding story as a bishop in red robes and pointed hat sainted only by the Pope becomes a holiday myth for fun, and finally the myth of false science whether it be a fear of colloidal silver or human biological evolution beside our apes.

Carbon-14 has three issues. It is not I agree or i disagree, or it is real or it is faulty. Reality is not faulty, nor is real science a lie. We are the ones who let ourselves get deceived by it.
The first issue is variation, but that variation though existing is forced to conform to a previous demanding timeline. That timeline not being correct is the motivation to force the C-14 to fit by making or seeing variations of C-14 that were not their. for 586 BC back to 2030 BC they say its not the chronology at fault, it is the C-14, and they force the C-14 to vary to fit the reconstructed claims of chronology.

So then all other things are then curved to the correction scale that was based on a chronology that was shifted instead of true, when instead the C-14 was right and the chronology was not. Example shift the exodus chronology from 1513 BC to 1313 BC and you demand that things that correctly C-14 date as 1513 BC are in error and should be corrected with a tree-ring correction chart (C14 correction chart) to be 1313 BC.
So there errors here in C14 are in the C14 itself, though C14 does vary and does need correction; there are too many errors in the chronology much greater than the C14 error. I trust in God, I trust the C14 not the previous schools.

Then because a water canopy was collapsed which prevented C14 before 2370 BC, and so the immediate increase levels jumping did not increase to noticeable level mixture for 100 years, we find people born in 2270 BC die in 2030 BC and date correctly, knowing their body mass grew during the 20-30 years from 2270 BC onward.

This means everything before 2370 BC you can add 20,000 years to so that the footprints of the Flood date as 20,000 years ago in 18,000 BC.
And it means that 2370-2030 BC will have a spred that looks like 18,000 BC to 2030 BC.

So for you to ask if I am for or against C14 is like asking me whether I am for or against electricity. Is electricity real? huh. Is it science, from God? huh. How can I take sides on whether electricity is accurate or not. That's what it sounds like when you expect people to take sides on C14 as accurate or not. It's not about the C14, it's about people and how they use it, intepret it, their claims, their denials, etc. Getting real is getting with God, and getting with God is getting real, and reality is no contradiction to God, but boy i sure agree with you that those who defend God sure say stupid things to put God in jail. And that is why religion can kill christ before government does, but religion will use government to kill all the innocent christ. So both are guilty like a king and his whore.

My request is, Barrack Obama you must set my people free.
As Moses came to Pharaoh, now Jehovah comes to you Obama.
It matters not whether you are Christian or Moslem,
the Christians expect you as Christian, and the Moslems expect you to return to Moslem. But Jehovah demands that you merely let his people free. You must allow them to leave for the mountains to worship Jehovah.
ELIJAH

This is a sincere request and order from Jehovah to Barrack Obama.
And when it reaches him, he is expected to answer the one who is GOD.

And by the way, the Jericho that Joshua fell was mortarless. It was cut stone toppled by sound waves. One day was not enough, two days was not enough. But they repeated until it fell. There is simple science in all the bible and it does require great details. Water can be parted, and Elijah can obey the law of Moses bringing a handful of grain back to the barrel every day from the roadside which belongs to the travellor. Looking for truth and looking to see miracles are two different kinds of eyes. In some ways those who see evolution as truth it is not are people who see fabricated miracles of scholastic science. You dont have to get it from a bible or from religion to fabricate the absurd and beleive it as truth.

[Michael]

Excusue me, but you are too far over the edge to take seriously.

Water canopy?  That isn't even bad science. That is creationist nonsense.

Jericho as motarless? Sure, now what about that rampart in the wall? Maybe Rahab lived in a tree.

Obama Let your people go? I doubt if their doctors and caretakers will let him do that.

Why didn't the Akkadian empire or Egypt succumb during that water canopy crash of 2370 BCE? They were recording history and seemed to have missed the greatest event of their age. 

Government and religion can not kill Christ. Only education and reason can do that.

[kattey]

To Elijah

Why do you use the name Jehovah when we know it is a made-up name caused by the mistranslation of a scribe?

[Elijah]

Excusue me, but you are too far over the edge to take seriously.

Water canopy?  That isn't even bad science. That is creationist nonsense.

Jericho as motarless? Sure, now what about that rampart in the wall? Maybe Rahab lived in a tree.

Obama Let your people go? I doubt if their doctors and caretakers will let him do that.

Why didn't the Akkadian empire or Egypt succumb during that water canopy crash of 2370 BCE? They were recording history and seemed to have missed the greatest event of their age. 

Government and religion can not kill Christ. Only education and reason can do that.

I am not good at being brief when i know so much. So everyone please inform me if this is brevity yet compactly thorough.
Backing up, if they did it before, why not again. The scriptures swear it can be done, kill the innocent one not just deliberately again as millions of innocent thru history, but also because he/she/they sees it as his time to die to save others. I beleive in the self-sacrifice of the christian soldiers having no weapons but their tongues.

You do not read my posts or you would know that Egypt in 1290 BC and in a Jewish-Greek 280 BC established Noah's Flood as 3090 BC Toth new year with a Pharoah created 350 years later in 2740 BC at Noah's death. The fact that Moses in 1513 BC says it was a 2370 BC Pamenot new year event (with C14 dating to 20,000 BC) does not mean an Egypt 720 years old lived thru that global Flood. Doing such chronology games has been done by all scholars since 1290 BC and is something to finally get mature about instead of like a child shouting my dad older than your dad, and he is bigger too.

Yes now is the time I need to let Obama know my people must be set free allowed to ascend the mountains if an asteroid hits April 9. I am dead serious about this request, and will judge his presidential seat by his answer. Perhaps I should have asked or demanded before the vote took place.

The two spies were not looking for just corruption in the people of Jericho to assure they do not come out to kill Israel in war (seeking they would be scoffers and laughers who become helpless when the event occurs). They also looked at the walls themselves to see whether as the oldest mortarless city of Canaan (764 years 2237-1473 BC) whether the walls could fall with faith in sound waves... this is faith in science because it is faith in Jehovah which means cause and effect, he will be what he always be. He brings good to good works and bad to bad works. Thus they knew her house would not fall. It happened by (jehovah's) odds of probabilities to have been the most stable house on all the wall. This is why she must hang a cord. The cord didnt stop the fall, it stop Israelite men from going in to kill them... because it had been promised the house with the cord do not kill them. For this reason future walls of Jericho were never again built without mortar. This should answer why I use the name Jehovah and Yehowah and Ya Ha Wa Ha (read backwards The Am The What. It is why my name is Elijahovah, because i see how our God is our Jehovah.

The water canopy existed because Genesis says the water above existed. Genesis says the rainbow began once the canopy was gone. Egyptians say that sun Ray did not exist until the water canopy fell (claimed as 3090 BC) as the birth of Ray. This is why gold was the most valuable to reflect the light of Ray and measure Ray. A pan of water was not used to reflect descending shaft (to failed 92-year ground chamber) up the ascending shaft of the second attempt chamber, it was a polished gold plate that was used to reflect the star Thuban, and the angular difference between reflected shaft published by few (is not the exact same) but rather the difference of 92 years precession of axis so that their math of comparing three calendars (360, and 365, and leap) failed the 100 years of easy simple math. Thus the pyramid projects were constantly made failure by Jehovah (cause and effect of precession). But this was not all, tradition includes The Pyramid as being tower of Babel and says Jehovah threw the stones down (until they learned to angle them inward).
It is false chronology that will claim egyptian calendar and pharaoh and kings and dynasties are all before the real Flood 2370 BC. When Egyptologist James Breasted said the calendar was 4242 BC does that mean Egypt existed before Noah's Flood that Africanus said was 3258 BC, or that Africanus was right when he decided Adam was Menes. When Richard Parker calculated Egypt as 3110 BC was it after The Flood 3258 BC by Africanus or before the real Flood 2370 BC. You ignore the Cause And Effect of how and why dates come up whether they be by C-14 or by former chronologers.

Finally, my most recent revelation from God thru men is the atmospheric weight of a canopy, which means our threat of global rain which the rainbow proves no longer exists was not a threat then to Noah either. Though 7 people other than Noah created fear that every rain could be a flood to kill everyone again, and that fear was pointed out by Noah as never again a global rain because the rainbow (and Ray) proves no canopy, the fear we need to have is tectonic plate collapse because as before it will meltdown and collapse and the ocean that once came 11,000 feet in height over Mount Ararat will happen again and come in 6000 feet in height (maybe even 10,000 in some places). But we have our mountains which are now higher. This process took 7 days from impact. (2370 BC Julian Nov 20-27) at which time collapse lasted 150 days. Proof is not just all religions pgan or not warning of the coming falling stars, but also the worship or fear of Volcan is magma below from cracked ground when impact occurs (it lasted 450 years from Flood to Sodom), and was brought back by the comet of 1514 BC when Thera erupted the same year Moses predicted Egypt's plagues. Not just Volcan and Molta but also the sea floor rise and collapse of Posiedon who is known as earthquake and tsunami. These are all elements of all events related to the Flood.

I hope this answers, because it is not whether you laugh now, it is whether you can be ready upon that great big "if" it happens (the asteroid) will you leave as they left Sodom rather than laugh during those 7 days. (This lessens but does not eliminate my other two predictions of March 10 internet world trade erasure of banks, or my Dec 25 christmas potential of war created by churches, though if an asteroid does hit April 9 in 2009 AD after this Dec 25 and this March 10, then of course that greatest disaster ends any potential of those two predicted other dates of ever coming true. Might I say that demonic Nostradamus though failing at 1997 and 2000 as The End, is still advocated. As always the worst of false prophets are allowed better regards and less hated than of a man who has greater accuracy, speaks less of specifics, and does as me correct himself.)
This is why YOUR government must let my people go. I am willing to die right now to get that promise for them.

[Irishman]

I'm going to vote for ca 1375 myself.\, and I'm gonna ignore all that asteroid hooey.

[Elijah]

Sounds cool. I am going to vote for 1493 columbus sailed the deep blue sea, and for July 2 as signing the constitution (that's a fact), and John Hancock signed first only after shooting the first guy who tried to be first.

[Irishman]

So, you have no interest in finding out why I prefer the date of 1375 BCE for the Exodus?

[notalent]

So, you have no interest in finding out why I prefer the date of 1375 BCE for the Exodus?

I'm interested.  Shoot!

[Irishman]

Well, we have some indeterminant period of coregency between Amenhotep III and Akhenaten which speaks to a certain degree of uncertainty in the traditional chronology.

Speaking to Psalm 104 and its similarities to the Hymn to the Aten, I tend to view the direction of inspiration as being from the Hebrews to Akhenaten. The evidence can go both ways, and we've seen the other avenue explored.

So, The family of Amenhotep III resembles very much that of the Pharaoh of the Exodus, especially having a son who died young. When Akhenaten changed religion, and began the Amarna experiment, there was a period of time when he had moved from the traditional capital and relocated to Amarna. In my understanding, Amarna then, was an homage to the God of the Hebrews, whom he called Aten.  (remember, he didn't invent Aten out of whole cloth. He was already in the Egyptian pantheon, but he changed his status from one of an also-ran to one of primacy).

But, the Amarna window was narrow, so for this period to be the correct choice for that of the Exodus, the event had to fit several criteria - which it does - and it had to be quick.

There had to he someone on the throne who was antagonisitic to Hebrews (Amenhotep III) but for whom they had outlived their usefulness, so that he would exile them from the country.

Also, we're missing Amenhotep III's body, which meshes well with the biblical account of Pharaoh who was drowned in the Sea.

Further, a 1376 date gives the Hebrews enough time to wander in the Sinai and arrive at Jericho in time for to cause destruction levels dated to the end of Amenhotep III's life (dated because of bural scarabs which cements the date as being no later than his death).

There is more, but that's the basic framework of it.