THERA (Santorini ) Eruption

[turanclancath]

  http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=7093518&maindocimg=1564949&service=100

The date of  the  Thera eruption still not settled.
1613 ( +/-  10 years ) radio carbon of olive branches

or after 1530  by history/archaelogy/chronology  .

Physical science  versus historical science .

Turanclancath

[notalent]

  http://www.ana.gr/anaweb/user/showplain?maindoc=7093518&maindocimg=1564949&service=100

The date of  the  Thera eruption still not settled.
1613 ( +/-  10 years ) radio carbon of olive branches

or after 1530  by history/archaelogy/chronology  .

Physical science  versus historical science .

Turanclancath

Interesting exchange from another forum:

Tory wrote:

Bernd Kromer, one of the authors of the Science piece, assures me
that the C14 date given to the Santorini olive branch, 1613 BCE (with a confidence of 95.4% between 1627 and 1600 BCE), is a nail in the coffin after so many other carbon dated short-lived samples collected from before, around, and after the eruption confirm the result.

David replies:

So the C-14 guys are 95.4% confident that the 1613 BC date (+/- 13
years) is the final nail in the coffin for those of us doubting the
radio-carbon date for the destruction of Akrotiri? Interesting.

Tory, do you think you could find out from your colleague, Bernd
Kromer, what his explanation is for the fact that modern samples
from Santorini were tested a few years ago and C-14 dated to circa 1100 AD?
Only out by nearly 1000 years I know - but whose counting?

The 95% confidence you refer to is surely to do with the 2-sigma
statistics of the test and does not account for any theoretical 'old
carbon' aging of the sample as a direct result of being buried in
vented old carbon ash from the eruption for several thousand years.
No C-14 results from materials retrieved from volcanic ash deposits, or even growing in an active volcanic terrain with gaseous venting
(such as modern Santorni), can be published with 95% confidence. When I was last on Nea Kameni (the new volcanic cone of Santorini) I aged at least five years in a couple of hours.

Incidentally, as I am sure you know, Professor Bietak is just as
confident that Thera erupted in the time of Thutmose III, circa 1450
BC in the OC. And he doesn't have to worry about the 'old carbon'
effect.

Regards,

David.

[Elijah]

I was mistaken in earlier research years thinking that as timelines get revised they stay true once aeroing in on the facts. But I have learned like a golfer putting to the last cup the ball hits the cup for a year or 4 and then goes right back to other theories.

As such examples, the short decade of stating the (Turin) Ramses Papyrus canon placed 12th dynasty at 1991 BC has now deserted that fact. However Genesis proving the year should be 1943 BC, also provides the data as to why Ramses would alter it to 1991 BC.

Another golf ball skirting the cup is the Thera explosion. I found a book placing the first of two eruptions as 1514 BC and that is the 10 plagues, so never did I think it the world's golf ball would roll right past the cup and go off into many other years into 1450 BC and 1613 BC. So I do not have the source.

But Google is not the best to try to find it, for this reason, I am happy to have downloaded the cave video beside Noah's ark in the Ararat glacier because it is no longer coming up googled with any portion of the same title. The point is you need to gather what you can while you can because it zooms right by and gets lost.
Take the advice.
ELIJAH

[turanclancath]

Thanks for your replys Notalent and Elijah about Thera/Santorini  eruption.
What is your opinion about the date of the eruption?

greetings
turanclancath

[Elijah]

If you compare sources, there were two eruptions perhaps 50 years apart. The first eruption wiped out Greece by flood so that it created two flood stories. Africanus places both this Greek flood from Thera and the Exodus in Hamurabi's year 1792 BC. I know it to be 1513 BC, and Romans and China agree, shifted 2 years by Greeks to 1511 BC (Eusebius). Scoffers will say yeh right, all Israel leaving EGypt would be so impoprtant to China and Mayans. The point they miss is global disaster meaning Moses predicted 10 plages of Egypt, not the plagues of the whole world armageddon that year. Evidence indicates the shikinah light touched ground on the two equinox... especially full moon for 40 years. And that it came from the cloud pillar that led out of Egypt and thru the Red Sea. Israel ran ahead of the cloud chased by it with clear sky and full moon, while Pharaoh was in cloud and darkness. The 41 years of this cloud indicates stationary orbit 18,000 miles up by a comet. Its death of firstborn i assume means that Pharaoh deliberately celebrated the firstborn on the streets of which anyone outside died from the cyanide in the air. Few scholars note that the turning back of the sun for Hezekiah (promised 15 years) so therefore occurred the same time 185,000 assyrians died outside (again an astral encounter including cyanide and again gravitational force). Such force could have uplifted Thera, or pulled on the crust of Earth to open faultlines. Earthquakes and fire had returned for Moses as they had existed settling down from Flood until Sodom of 1918 BC July 18 (450 years). Thus the encounter in 1514 BC revived tectonics after a peace of 405 years. The sinking of Thera was not Noah's Flood but it becomes a reminder that all continents collapsed 5 months into a soup of mantle melted down 2 miles by Noah's asteroid and took 8 months to rise back up.

[turanclancath]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091026093728.htm

Good Old Thera/Santorini eruption.

Now dated  circa 1500 BC  by C14 and OLS( lumicense )  method.
Great !

turanclancath:)

[Elijah]

I need to revise the 2-mile meltdown of seismic activity for The Flood, since we are discussing such with the fault of Sodom (1918 BC) and eruption of Thera during the plagues (1514 BC). We can thus expect such activity during our 1000 year paradise ahead since it follows another asteroid impact.

If ocean melts 1 mile under crust, and this spreds to 1 mile under land. The energy of the astral matter impact that pushes the ocean up another 1 mile so that ocean has raised only 1 mile, but the 1 mile of magma under the land then is drawn to under the ocean like a tsunami in the mantle (losing 40-45 feet every 12 hours 25 min) dropping the land the full 1 mile that has melted down until the magma tsunami wave returns in a slower rate than it flowed out. Thus the land has only dropped 1 mile because the oceans have raised 1 mile putting land under 2 miles of sea water.