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« on: Feb 08, 2009, 04:36 PM »

Manetho says dynasty 7 was founded by 70 men who sat 70 days in 2770 BC. This remarkably parallels the absence of the star Sothis at Memphis which in 2770 BC would be 70 days from May 8 to a new year Toth 1 on July 17.

If you accept the Hebrew Genesis of Moses this would be the year
of Peleg Mesanipada's death in 2030 BC being 340 years after the  Flood (2370 BC) regarded as year 940 of Noah, but being year 944 in his 360-day calendar, (having gained 4 years since the Flood), and thus be a debated year of Adam as 1996 [1656+340] or year 2000 [1656+344]). And the new year then being derived from May 8 thru an Epagum 1 new moon of July 12 to a new year of Pamenot 1.

The issue here is the number 70.
For every degree north of the North Tropic (at one time Cancer), the star Sothis sets a day earlier and rises a day later increasing its absence by 2 days. Thus
23 degrees is 56 days May 15 to July 10, and
25 degrees is 60 days May 13 to July 12, and
Memphis 70 days May 8 to July 17, and
the main point of Septuagint issue 72 days at
31 degree Alexandria and at Ur from May 7 to July 18.

So then
if the Septuagint was written at Alexandria in 280 BC,
was it translated in 70 days May 9 to July 19,
or in 72 days May 8 to July 20.
And was it done by 70 men or by 72 men. Does Septua mean 70 or does Sep Tua mean 72?
By the way, Sothis at Memphis drifted from July 17 last noted in 1513 BC to July 19 durng the many Era (776 and 753 and 747 and 740 and 720 BC), until July 20 at the birth of Jesus. Did these men start on the date Sothis disappears and finish when it rises? (Finishing July 19?  or July 20?).
I am more concerned over whether our schools can solidify whether it was 70 or 72 men? I really dont think we as a whole will ever get our astronomy together. And don't tell me any remarks of our great space program when we crash millions of dollars on Mars because Britain calculated decent in meters instead of feet for the USA. But I will compliment them on proving enough astronomy to know our Flood was 2370 BC and what to do when we get hit in April.
ELIJAH

(sigh, bummed out that I know all this and my life will be so short to share it with you; and thinking why is it they have the authority to shoot and kill if being not guilty you choose to flee an arrest. Cornered, I die either way don't I.)


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« Reply #1 on: Apr 09, 2009, 04:05 AM »

Here is my reason for 72 and not 70.

72 days by 72 persons. 6 scribes from each tribe - so 6 x 12 = 72.

Derived from Exodus 14:19-21, three verses each composed of 72 letters;  the names of 72 angels or intelligences or 72 Names of God are formed.

It is also the number of degrees divided in a 360 degree circle divided by the pentagram or the number of 5 degree heavy ticks on a 360 degree circle.

Legend, according to the fictional letter of Aristeas.
The king wrote to the High Priest in Jerusalem, asking him to send scholars who would be able to translate the Pentateuch into Greek. The High Priest sent 72 wise men, whom the king lodged in a building on the island of Pharos, near Alexandria. Each translated only a part of the Pentateuch and after 72 days, at the conclusion of the work, the Greek translations were read before the Jewish community and before the king. All lauded the Jewish Bible and its wisdom and praised the work of the translators.

Greek Bible scrolls are mentioned in the Talmud.
Secret status of such scrolls is defended in Shabb 115a and Meg 9a.
There is no direct evidence that these refer to LXX but there are some references to Aquila and the targumim - translations.

If you have time:

http://books.google.com/books?id=p6Nb0o3qY6oC&pg=PA371&lpg=PA371&dq=The+Talmud+(Meg,+9a)&source=bl&ots=4Yfo50tQS3&sig=iKlSRpBMuPkCLcdupnmYOH-7XO4&hl=en&ei=UdfdSbHmBoa0Ncy4weoJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10#PPA374,M1
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 09, 2009, 08:13 AM »

At the original Memphis of 30 degrees
in 2030 BC (but true for 2770 BC also)
the star Sothis had a crossover conjunction point of
Julian June 12, thus 35 days before and after created an absence of 70 days from May 8 to July 17. The third of
the sky from pole to equator was very important for accurate
astronomy math of all things.

However, as we know Babel was not at 30, nor was Jerusalem, nor was Ur. And if cities did not cooperate
to share the difference in information, if they war by
saying yes our cities are different because we are right
and you are not, you are all wrong, then true knowledge
is failed to be aquired by noting the different true angles
and true perspectives that different locations on Earth
will have regarding the true astronomy.
The city of Alexandria is 31 degrees and its latitude
is that of the city Ur. Throughout Egypt to Babylon the
curve of change in Sothis (which was chosen not for its
location in the sky but for it being brightest of fixed stars)
has a 1 day difference per degree latitude. One day in
setting absent and one day in rising appearance.
The 70-day death and rise of Anubis is 30 degrees.
Look at any day and the set of the Dog is a dog, and
the rise of it is a stick man, (the dog with a man's head
is the rising of Canis after 70 days. THIS (by the way) is proof and dating of the first man recognized as dying innocently (his error not regarded as a sin which causes death) but dying from old age 340 years after the Flood as everyone had before the Flood. It is 70 day Anubis the god of death in 2030 BC from May 8 to July 17. The first old man to die with the recognition that aging from death is NOT a personal sin but rather error of all men yet to discover what causes aging. The first man to die was only 240 though our great father (his great father) Noah was 940.  He was Peleg and this issue divided the world on any and every topic creating nothing of uniformity whether religion or science or math or writing or calendar... longevity cut by 700 years shattered the world.

But at Alexandria and Ur at 31 degrees this is 72 days.
One day earlier it disappears on May 7 and one day later
it rises on July 18.
Thus to have 72 men in Alexandria is with purpose of
linking the original Chaldea, the city of Ur, to the authority
of the Greeks in their city named after Alexander Greater
than The Pharaoh. Interesting that you say the island is Pharos. You are correct though because the cycle of Venus
as 584 days with the year 365 days is one of units of
every 73 days which measure 72 degrees. Perhaps this
is why Ur was chosen as location but since Ur was built
(2239 BC) before Giza (2170 BC) it means that it was
based on a 365-day year before 2232 BC confirmed a
Sothic Julian year ot them (139x 360 days = 137 Julian).
The study of Jehovah is a study where unconfirmed truths
(such as a need for a leap day in 4 years)
become neglected and buried and shunned and disappear
so that they then become rejected due to no one truly knowing the discovery or thesis once the author oif it dies.
As my close friend said to me I was a failure because others more skilled than me or smarter than me have found no ark and believe other locations. He sees no neglect nor incompetence on others' efforts, but of course not, he makes his supplemental retirement money on mere advice on how to successfully pull in mass fund drives. What we know now, we could have known 3000-4000 years ago but we are faulty in heart to value truth. And Moses says perhaps for good because there is nothign man couldn't do if this division in confusion didn't exist with us, yes mass production is destroying humans and Earth because it makes without caring the results. This means Earth could have been destroyed  2000-3000 years before God's natural Armageddon rectified the error of man doing this.
Thus in 280 BC, the crossing of the star Sothis has shifted 2-3 days to June 14/15; so that at Memphis its crossing the hoirzon rising has shifted 2-3 days to July 19 or 20; so that if it be July 19 at Memphis then it is July 20 at Alexandria with a 72 day absence at Alexandria of May 9 to July 20, or May 10 to July 21. These are the 72 days they did the translating. Because new year Thoth 1 is All Saints Day November 1 that year, the dates in Egypt are

Toth 1 = Nov 1  new year
Pamenot 11 =May 10  / Pamenot 12 =May 11  death
Parmuti 16 =Jun 14  / Parmuti 17 =Jun 15  crosss
Pakon 21 = July 21  / Pakon 22 = July 22   rise

For a certainty we can then say the Septuagint was complete on the date Pakon 21 or Pakon 22 which
is 280 BC July 21 or 22. However, Pharaoh's dream for Joseph is the year 1738 BC and as such it is marked by Venus. The sothic math is 1460 years (being 1461 calendar years) but to close the gap it must be mistaken by them as 1460 calendar years of 1738-279 BC. However, a sothic Venus rise is 1458 Julian years (6x 243 Julian) and span
1738-280 BC for the dream, and 1737-279 BC for Joseph's inauguration upon his 30th year starting in 1738 BC completing 30 years in 1737 BC.  In both 1738 BC when the sun crosses over Regulus the lion foot as the crab rises, and in 280 BC when the sun approaches the lion foot on the same July 21 date as the crab rises, Venus is found rising on a line drawn from the dawn of Sothis to Castor and Pollux the twins confirming 1458 Julian years has passed on July 21 (Pakon 21). Thus the completion date of the Septuagint is confirmed as Pakon 21 (July 21) in 280 BC not after the 280 BC Nov 1 new year in July 279 BC.
ELIJAH


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« Reply #3 on: Apr 09, 2009, 09:54 AM »

The whole OT Septuagint was completed much later.

The 72 days are the completion of the books of Moses the Torah.

The rest of the OT came to be a continues work closer to 1 BC. Some argue
180 BC  others 120 BC,
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