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Astronomy program shows absent moon late Feb 16 revealing Feb 18 to be first crescent. A span of 1200 Julian years retreats the new moon about 7 days so that in 2400 Julian days this new moon retreat is 14 days to full moon. For exact equation 29,684.5 lunar months.
This means that in 2400 Julian years (2435x 360 days) that it probably was handy to note the half orbit or new moon to full moon from 1901 BC to 500 AD, and 1900 BC to 501 AD. This also means a relation would be declared between 702 BC back to 3102 BC (and respectively 3101-701 BC and 3100-700 BC). Revision to the calendar is known to have occurred in 499 AD if you GOOGLE it. This is logical since the constant 1200 Julian cycle from Epoc 3102 BC is 1902 BC and 702 BC and 499 AD.

What I have found yesterday May 25 is that the correlation of Hindu has its connection to Genesis dates. Though it deserts the oriental and Mayan connection of the 40th day being Noahs 3-27 (oriental cycle of 60 days as all odd months, or three Mayan unial), it does so because i found a match for the date 2-27 which is 30 days not 60. Thus it is not day of the rat as 27th of odd months is. BUT this is a date listed in Genesis, the date they disembarked the ark. And so in this way it could be Venus. Venus ended the 40 days on 3-27-600, but 330 days later there is also Venus for date 2-27-601 when they disembark. In the Hindu calendar, this first crescent on 3102 BC Feb 18 is Noah's 360-day calendar date 3-02 which means 355 days later (12 lunar months) the first crescent 3101 BC Feb 8 falls on the date 2-27 which is a rising Capricorn /Aquarius Venus ending the whole Flood year. Compare this to the rising Capricorn /Aquarius Venus of 3-27-600 on 2369 BC January 6 as day 40, and 330 days later the setting descending Capricorn Venus of 2369 BC Dec 1 as 2-27-601 on the day of descent (trouble breathing the thin air).

Where as 2400 Julian years retain Noah's dates such as
3102 BC Feb 18 is 3-02
3101 BC Feb 8 is 2-27
so
702 BC Feb 18 is 3-02
701 BC Feb 8 is 2-27

and
1902 BC Feb 18 is 9-02
1901 BC Feb 8 is 8-27
1900 BC Feb 2 is 8-27
so
499 AD Feb 18 is 9-02
500 AD Feb 8 is 8-27
501 AD Feb 2 is 8-27

Venus as 1200 egyptian years
less 60 day atonement correction
= 1199 Julian and 5 days
thus
(3098 BC Jan 23)
1899 BC Jan 28 = 2-27 inferior rising Venus
700 BC Feb 2
500 AD Feb 7
verifying that the 3102 BC is not the true Flood
which would be verified by Venus formula.
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 02:51 PM »

Astronomy program shows absent moon late Feb 16 revealing Feb 18 to be first crescent. A span of 1200 Julian years retreats the new moon about 7 days so that in 2400 Julian days this new moon retreat is 14 days to full moon. For exact equation 29,684.5 lunar months.
This means that in 2400 Julian years (2435x 360 days) that it probably was handy to note the half orbit or new moon to full moon from 1901 BC to 500 AD, and 1900 BC to 501 AD. This also means a relation would be declared between 702 BC back to 3102 BC (and respectively 3101-701 BC and 3100-700 BC). Revision to the calendar is known to have occurred in 499 AD if you GOOGLE it. This is logical since the constant 1200 Julian cycle from Epoc 3102 BC is 1902 BC and 702 BC and 499 AD.

What I have found yesterday May 25 is that the correlation of Hindu has its connection to Genesis dates. Though it deserts the oriental and Mayan connection of the 40th day being Noahs 3-27 (oriental cycle of 60 days as all odd months, or three Mayan unial), it does so because i found a match for the date 2-27 which is 30 days not 60. Thus it is not day of the rat as 27th of odd months is. BUT this is a date listed in Genesis, the date they disembarked the ark. And so in this way it could be Venus. Venus ended the 40 days on 3-27-600, but 330 days later there is also Venus for date 2-27-601 when they disembark. In the Hindu calendar, this first crescent on 3102 BC Feb 18 is Noah's 360-day calendar date 3-02 which means 355 days later (12 lunar months) the first crescent 3101 BC Feb 8 falls on the date 2-27 which is a rising Capricorn /Aquarius Venus ending the whole Flood year. Compare this to the rising Capricorn /Aquarius Venus of 3-27-600 on 2369 BC January 6 as day 40, and 330 days later the setting descending Capricorn Venus of 2369 BC Dec 1 as 2-27-601 on the day of descent (trouble breathing the thin air).

Where as 2400 Julian years retain Noah's dates such as
3102 BC Feb 18 is 3-02
3101 BC Feb 8 is 2-27
so
702 BC Feb 18 is 3-02
701 BC Feb 8 is 2-27

and
1902 BC Feb 18 is 9-02
1901 BC Feb 8 is 8-27
1900 BC Feb 2 is 8-27
so
499 AD Feb 18 is 9-02
500 AD Feb 8 is 8-27
501 AD Feb 2 is 8-27

Venus as 1200 egyptian years
less 60 day atonement correction
= 1199 Julian and 5 days
thus
(3098 BC Jan 23)
1899 BC Jan 28 = 2-27 inferior rising Venus
700 BC Feb 2
500 AD Feb 7
verifying that the 3102 BC is not the true Flood
which would be verified by Venus formula.

You put a lot of emphasis on dates.  Could you explain why these should be important to people in general?
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 03:31 PM »

I am not concerned with how good anyone is to survive the Flood (whether others than just 8 were), nor how wonderful the three are who survive Sodom, nor whether it was the good who left Egypt behind because Egypt is all evil. Instead I concern myself with the ability to predict things that science claims only they are capable of predicting. The sword that will divide survivor from nonsurvivor will be the words dared to be spoken before it happens, when it happens, while it happens. It will move hearts to either be humble or get pissed off and angry.

It is the belief they have that religion does not concern itself with physical science despite the fact all we have in science was from schools of religious countries, and the more free from any one major political religion (Catholic, Moslem etc) the more that freedom led to discovery of science in lands of religious freedom (ulitmately United Kingdom and the United States).
Now for a world dominated by the science who now smuts our origin by saying we evolved from dinosaurs 65 million years ago, and that none of this reverse cultural stand is from hating the Church (but i see it in fact hating the Bible because I have always tried the atitude of hate the church not the Bible and they choose to hate the Bible too for having moral code; but I ask why is it law can have moral code and religion or bible cannot). So with this world dominated by the evolution timeline, is it not of value to say that these dates:
Egyptian Flood date Thoth 1 of 3090 BC Oct 5
is derived from true date Epagum 1 2370 BC Oct 5
(original Pamenot 1 being Zoroaster Tir 1 on Oct 10)
- - or that
Mayan 360-day calendar of the Flood year
starting day zero as Ahau
3114 BC (Sept 7) Gregorian Aug 12 with day Ahau
is because day 1 of every year
3114 BC (Sept 8 ) Gregorian Aug 13 with day Imix
was shifted 20 days from Noah being that it is
day 21 of his 1st month every year such that
2370 BC new year is Oct 12 with the 20th of
that month being Mayan day Ahau on Oct 31 (Noahs 1-20)and Mayan day Imix on Nov 1 (Noahs 1-21).
- - or that
the Hindu Flood year posted today by me here
of 3102 BC as 12 lunar months (355 days)
ends on Noahs date 2-27 as does Genesis.

This is only a simple taste of the proof that the Flood
existed as 2370 BC on all exact dates to prove it was
a predictable event by Noah, and that our world events
are also predictable even to the extent of our Armageddon.
Jesus said to apostles what Noah said to Gilgamesh,
he said i do not know the answer, but he also said
what Noah said, stay awake and you will know. John in Revelation quotes the spirit Jesus as saying stay awake so that you know the hour, while Peter says you wont know, its a thief for Christians too. I disagree with Peter just as John disagrees... including what Jesus said to Peter and then told John that John would never die. Youre never gonna die, Jesus told me so is what he said. But John said Peter is blind because it is rhetorical in saying if i want him to stay until the kingdom he will stay... rhetorical for mind your own damn business Peter. Do remember that Peter thinks he is better than us because we fled and he stuck by the trial, boldly with sword so Jesus could get accused of leading men who attack Roman soldiers ears, yet a whimp with his tongue until the rooster crows. Sorry I am like Jonah, i feel running is less shame, because my days of shooting my mouth off like Peter are alot less than I used to.   :-(   and no comment here from peanut gallery.

So the point is that truth is science and science truth and it is predictable. The weather man uses dates when he predicts. Try to predict anything without dates. If you say someone's child will be a brat, at what age and when are you claiming this... or is this some forever date you can keep saying will happen until someday it might. Everyone is a know it all, and the secret is not to say more than you really know or can be sure of. I have backed off not in shame but letting God do the guiding this year.

So now you tell me whether all the creation stories being the miscalculated Flood based on Mars and Venus and Jupiter and Sirius... tell me if that is of value. If it isnt then your biblical concern is religious and not one of knowledge we of archeology and science and chronology and history pursue and create such discussions and forums and printed written word. What good is a forum without discovery.
And dates are yet to be discovered, past, present, and future.
I truly do not fabricate a whole timeline. It evolved from Adventist 1844 AD to WatchTower 1956 AD when i was born. And the truths of proof are all over in all libraries already published just in need to piece together. I do not say Ur was destoryed in 2029 BC (secular record does), but they assume it must be 3rd dynasty IbbiSin when in fact it is 1st dynasty. IbiSin was an elder (a king) during dynasty 2 when no sole king ruled, and he placed IshbiErra on throne of Isan in 2017 BC, but IbiSin was not sole king of Ur until 1925 BC and its destruction in 1901 BC killed him. The identification of AmarSin as being AmarPal is not mine, again i found it and merely agree. It fits. But the timeline remians the same, always 1956 WatchTower.
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I truly do not fabricate a whole timeline. It evolved from Adventist 1844 AD to WatchTower 1956 AD when i was born. And the truths of proof are all over in all libraries already published just in need to piece together. I do not say Ur was destoryed in 2029 BC (secular record does), but they assume it must be 3rd dynasty IbbiSin when in fact it is 1st dynasty. IbiSin was an elder (a king) during dynasty 2 when no sole king ruled, and he placed IshbiErra on throne of Isan in 2017 BC, but IbiSin was not sole king of Ur until 1925 BC and its destruction in 1901 BC killed him. The identification of AmarSin as being AmarPal is not mine, again i found it and merely agree. It fits. But the timeline remians the same, always 1956 WatchTower.
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It's just that the writings of the New Testament don't seem very preoccupied with dates, but of other matters of faith.  Upon what should we then meditate?
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 03:12 AM »

Jesus spoke in riddles. A woman said he was good and he said no one is good, God is good. He was not saying he was evil, though it would be your first reply had i said no one is good. You would have found it reason to claim it was admittion to being bad and admitting sin and the topic would go off all into whether i am good or bad. What you miss is the fact that the riddles of Jesus do reveal both side opinons existing of his own mind. Much like the squeaky wheel gets the grease if you speak up but the quacking duck gets shot; both being facts. So too Jesus spoke this way presenting both sides. He says not to stumble and yet he says he has come to stumble. So too then I have learned from this and I do this too, so now bear with my explanation of time versus priority matters when I say that ....

Jesus was not the christ, the christ is bigger and greater. And yet Jesus is the only christ as the christ begins with him and becomes bigger. Yet there would be no christ unless his forefathers were christ descending to his birth, and yet no christ if no Son existed to create the world thru. In other words christ is the means to God, it is any proper means that gets to God, and Jesus displayed all those means. Getting to God doe snot mean get to heaven or be approved by your opinion or that of others. It means you know the physical laws of God as he alone created them as the way for us to live, and that by obeying them we experience prosperity instead of destruction. The prosperity of money or material things is not the greatest of these physical laws, because food itself of stomach and of mind is greater than systems of money, just as work for oneself and others is more important than enslaved work under some emplyer who is benefitting the world in his own mind or even being famed as doing so.
So therefore if people have been killing christ since Abel, and Esau attempting Jacob, Ishmael as threat to Isaac, and this is in teh family but all blamed to being like the world. We hav no christ because all are killing it. Yet some method must be devised to build that Christ, and Jesus had the method. The time and hour and physics matter, but are only true if heart and soul and mind align to get there. Thus as the Advents were given delusion of coming 100 years earlier than the real 6000 that a church may be grown for God Jehovah, so too the Magi started belief it was year 6000 when it was 500 years before earliest substantial calculation of 500 AD, not to mention year 6000 was claimed as 622 AD and 800 AD. The moment of now was sustained and nurtured rather than openly prove to people who live 70 years that there was yet 2000 years to go. The very best and the very worst can happen in 2000 years; no one sees that far. They fail to see the future 1000 years of the future kingdom having a success. Most of what jesus said is not about people, or their way to be spiritual, but rather dwell on how the kingdom grows, it grows spiritual but also grows corrupted. He is referring to both past and future, the causes of why things are as they are, and people are so blind to it. He expresses how and why the corruption; it is not just cast opinions, but rather he is teaching how people cause it. Yet he also teaches how truth will survive until the peak when things are worst in the world and yet best and ripe to unveil all truth right now. I am part of that truth with all these dates, and you seem to thing the new testament is a discard of the old. Paul warns you, that you are a branch accepting a jew named Jesus as the christ and as such you are adopted by that jewish christ to be a christian jew. He warns you do not be cutting off the tree that you as a branch are now part of, or God will cut you off as he did the jews. This doesnt mean to value the jewish fathers we adopted children have is to claim God will restore their temple and Jerusalem. He restores the temple as a christian church taken ot heaven for Jesus. It merely means do not be criticizing the path that brought Adam to Noah to Abram to Moses to David to Jesus. Those people brought us the christ as they feel they are still trying to do or will do yet. We sadly see their rejected christ as our christ, but it was still brought thru Jew, not thru Shinto nor Maya nor Buddha nor Moslem.
Yet i say to you jesus christ can be made as shallow as all these if all we do is ramble on how we accept him or declare being saved by him as thes eother peoples do with their own savior and yet we do not know Jesus our christ. Jesus frequently tested his apostles to prove they were yet to really know him. He had a great skill in trying to do this without offending him. Yet they were good men or they could have been offended like Judas, or others that jesus sorted away from him for being more hinderance than followers. Thus teaching all truth is the key, and you cannot discard time and calendar and true chronology as if the past and old replaced by the new thought. The new thought is actually the original thought, that kin gdom and family grow with staying on the path to begin with. It doesnt ignore calendar, it just knows calendar is second to proper behavior that will lead you to all these answers on things even beyond calendar or time or hour or planets and space.


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