841 BCE Assyrian Text

[Sekhmet]

On page 13 of The Ancient Assyrians .  by Mark Healy, Illustrated by Angus McBride.  (reprinted 2000).  Osprey.

We can see Israelite King Jehu, son of Omri paying homage to Shalmaneser III reign from 858-824 BCE on the Great Black Obelisk.  The only problem I have with it, is scripture does not list a king of Israel with the name of Jehu, son of Omri. What gives?

[kattey]

Hi Sekhmet

I googled Jehu, and he was the son of Jehoshaphat and the tenth King of northern Israel.  He killed the son of Ahab, Jorem, and was known for killing.  I don't know what his standing is in the Bible.

[Sekhmet]

Hi Sekhmet

I googled Jehu, and he was the son of Jehoshaphat and the tenth King of northern Israel.  He killed the son of Ahab, Jorem, and was known for killing.  I don't know what his standing is in the Bible.

Hi Kattey,

King Jehu, son of Jehoshaphat, son of Nimishi (2nd Kings 9) was originally a captain of the Israelite army under King Joram, son of Ahab, son of Omri.  In the 12th year of King Joram, God’s prophet Elisha received the command to anoint Captain Jehu, as King of Israel and give him a mission from God.  Elisha was to tell Jehu to “strike the house of Ahab your master, that I (God) may avenge the blood of My servants the prophets, and the blood of all the servants of the Lord, at the hand of Jezebel.  For the whole house of Ahab shall perish, and I will cut off from Ahab every male person both bond and free in Israel.  I will make the house of Ahab like the house of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, and like the house of Baasha the son of Ahijah.  The dogs shall eat Jezebel in the territory of Jezreel, and none shall bury her.”
From this Jehu son of Jehoshaphat, son of Nimishi, proceeded with his orders and either killed or had killed King Jorem, Queen Jezebel, and the seventy other living sons of King Ahab.  He destroyed the priesthood of Baal then current in Israel.  However, he did not keep his heart on the commandments of God, and did not destroy the golden calves that Jeroboam had first set up for Israel after his own rebellion.


However, because of this sin… King Jehu son of Jehoshaphat, son of Nimishi eventually lost large parts of Israel to King Hazael the Aramaic King.  While his house only ruled for four generations.

Yes, he killed a lot.  However, I humbly ask that before anyone goes accusing God of being heartless.  Please remember there is a growing consensus that the Bible was redacted during, after the Babylonian Exile.  Long after those loveable hordes of Assyrians had left their mark from Persia to Egypt.  So please check out the boastings of Ashur-nasir-pal Great King of Assyria the father of Shalmaneser III whose Black Obelisk started this thread.  http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Assyria/Inscra02.html  I would advise the reader to start at about 1:46 where it starts to get down into the meat of Ashur-nasir-pal pride in his destruction of the defeated.  Read on, do so please until you realize that compared to this human, God is merciful.  IMHO!


So Kattey, this is my end, because of the scriptural tradition of cramming all of Hebrew/Jewish history into a very short period.  The history of the Divided Monarchy Period is the one area I am not very sure.  How I would love to see that block that identifies Tiglath-Pileser III as Pul.  I have read it is in very poor shape compared to the others around it.  Of course, scholars admit that while Egyptian Pharaohs took predecessors work for themselves.  The Assyrian Kings would not dare with the curses the originator had sanctified them.  Like sure uh-ah yeh.

Thank you again, it is always enjoyable talking to such an inquiring mind.  Take care and have a nice day.

[Sekhmet]

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Assyria/Inscra01.html

Notes - (Page 238)
This inscription is engraved on an obelisk of black marble, five feet in height, found by Mr. Layard in the centre of the Mound at Nimroud, and now in the British Museum. Each of its four sides is divided into five compartments of sculpture representing the tribute brought to the Assyrian King by vassal princes, Jehu of Israel being among the number. Shalmaneser, whose annals and conquests are recorded upon it, was the son of Assur-natsir-pal, and died in 823 B.C., after a reign of thirty-five years. A translation of the inscription was one of the first achievements of Assyrian decipherment, and was made by Sir. H. Rawlinson; and Dr. Hincks shortly afterward (in 1851) succeeded in reading the name of Jehu in it. M. Oppert translated the inscription in his "Histoire des Empires de Chaldee et d'Assyrie," and M. Menant has given another rendering of it in his "Annales des Rois d'Assyrie" (1874). A copy of the text will be found in Layard's "Inscriptions in the Cuneiform Character" (1851).





Very interesting reading...very important reading for those interested in Biblical Chronology.  Anyone try comparing the generally accepted father and son Annals of Ashurnasirpal II and Shalmaneser III?  Interesting...especially when we are reminded that there is are earlier Ashurnasirpal's and Shalmaneser's even another father and son set.


To all a great day.

[turanclancath]

http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/JHS/Articles/article_34.pdf

Interesting article about Shalmanaser III and his wars.

( battle of Quarcar etc ).

Turanclancath:)

[Sekhmet]

Many deeply heart felt thanks on this most wonderful day my dear Turanclancath.  I am encouraged greatly by my first reading of this piece.
I hope that dissecting it will produce great help to me with my Assyrian problem as it relates to Archaeological Chronology.
It is this period that delays me in completing the chronology of archaeology and I would like it to run as smoothly as the rest of the chronology does.

[Elijah]

I have a chronology of the period but it adds 54 years based on a difference of lunar dates being 64 and 56 years apart, and two concepts, one is that he was already king and then rule dthe same span a 2nd time by being coronated for the Era, and the other being it was not the Samaritan Era 722 BC, but the Greek Era 776 BC.

The lunar dates (19 years) of the Samaritan era belong to 740 BC not 721 BC. Knowing that the long accepted chrnology of Babylon 1894-1594 BC is accurate due to Moses born in 1594 BC to glorify the fall of Babylon, and that all chronologies which think the Venus Tablets of Babylon are either Amizaduga or mistaken as Hamurabi as 3600 years of Adam when they are indeed 2400 years of, (in 1625 BC), naturally the 64 years between Babylon and Assyria (1594-1530 BC) have to be closed up. No, problem. By finding the errors between this 1594 BC fall and Jerusalem destroyed in 607 BC, it falls right into place with all astral records. THE WORLD HAS ALWAYS HAD TWO ALTERNATIVES in all things, the real truth by Abel, and the stuff pushed as truth by Cain. And Cain said to Abel (and to Jesus), quit sayin I wish to kill you, I will never do that. This world is about being right and hated when you are. It determines prosperity, money, fame, prestige.

ELIJAH
the first of two sacrifices before the END
(shsh, we will see, and soon)
and dont you dare call it my passion if I die because
it is not what I want nor wanted. I have always
been bitter at times wishing no one lives and they all die.
Because I wanted my own children to teach all the things
I cant teach anyone else. (And I have no one.)