WatchTower JW Angelo Palego's www.noahsark.it

[Elijah]

I have revised Palego's chart errors from his one chart into 5 corrected charts posted here.

[Elijah]

Diagnostics of a water vapors canopy.
It is being said that the ideal canopy is 10cm of water. If this were so then the rain for 40 days would be 1/4 cm per day divided by 24 hours which is a rainfall of 0.0104 cm per day. Obviously not a rainfall but a mist.

The problem with 40 feet of water isnt the weight or pressure on the atmosphere, but rather the amount of heat it would hold to the Earth. But the problem isnt with 40 feet. Due to centifugal force, the 40 feet of water over the equator would be totally absent at the poles and thus letting heat out, and near the poles only 10cm thick as stated. Thus a model cannot portray and absolute constant thickness of canopy over the whole Earth's atmosphere. Next, it is clear that this canopy must have a reflective ability to a oid overheating the Earth. This is accomplished by reflecting 75% of all light so that 25% is what keeps the Earth between 65-95 degrees F. The water vapor at the bottom of the canopy is the hottest and rises 40 feet to the top where it freezes and then reflects 75% of the solar constant. When it freezes it then sinks to the bottom of the canopy where it re-evaporates and rises again. The temperature layer of this location is currently at (50 miles or 85 km) altitude above sea level. However, with 40 feet of fresh water (not ocean salt water pressure) upon it the addition of this 14.5 psi doubles the current existing atmosphere so that pressure is not only 29psi at sea level, but also is 14.5psi directly under the water vapor canopy. This compresses existing air of the thermosphere to an altitude lower than the current 50 mile /85km. It is clear that to God the Creator (defined as Jehovah the cause and effect of all collective forces) that He is perfect in what he does whether it be with canopy or removed canopy. He proves that we can survive extremes, but that he controls the extremes so that we learn that the perfect will to survive is not the conditions thrown at us as being labeled as good or bad (of God or of Satan), or praised or cursed, but rather that our our own atitude to conform to survival. God resolves his own issues of dispersing his own energy and returning it to himself so that he doesn't disapate by running out of enenrgy. He requires we be part of that and do the same thing, or it would be our death, as it would be his if he didn't sustain himself. He dies, and all dies. He lives, and all that exists can live too if it cooperates with him not as a God of tyranny, but merely because all Creation is part of his body. Thus because water is designed to float as a solid and plants are designed to have anti-freeze chemicals, this means that ice and snow on Earth is not banned forever merely because vapor canopy prevented it, or will exist again to prevent it again and revive Earth for 1000 years. Eternal life is not prevented by God's design of creation, but rather by our not noting the causes of death and conforming to avoid these. So the Earth was perfect before the Flood, and although deserts and frozen tundra is not perfect to us, we still talk about that perfect distance from sun, and perfect heat constant from sun, and perfect tilt because without God any asteroid impact could be total extinction of all life and totally dead. It is not his intent to do this, he is teaching us a lesson that we will learn when all come back to life to add to totaly human society all the things we have learned. In the end of the matter, it is God who has retained all our thoughts like a hard drive to retore our minds when bringing us back. It's a shame some of the trash he has to retain to restore such people. But I guess he beleives they can and will change and willingly they will erase things from their own minds what they should erase, rather than have God just leave it out. The new creation as humans is direct resurrection without birth from a mother. This doesn't mean that God leaves the bad out of everyone's minds and hearts so that they don't know who they are or were back during  the 6000 years of history.
ELIJAH

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What about meteors interacting with this canopy.  Without a canopy, they don't burn up until they are much closer to the earth.  But if there is a water barrier of some feet thickness, are they blowing big holes in it, traveling at thousands of miles an hour?  They must pass through somehow.

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The 40-foot water vapor canopy (reflecting 75% solar constant) is a prepatory work, just as it will soon be again prepratory for the next 1000 years. It was not intended to stay up, and so didnt stay up, but did come down too soon, by both God's intent to punish, but also by angelic interference by angels showing off with their threats as they did when they dematerialized Enoch (no question God's power by angels, but as punishment for not accepting angels, or as peace to escape them), its fall was too soon since intent was for up to 7000 years for us (the end of day 7) for a total of 42,000 years since day 2 started. Nor is it intended to stay up for more than the coming 1000 years when God puts it back up this year via asteroid impact. And intent to acknowledge its descent or fall is proven by the laws of creation where plants have been created with antifreeze, and water is the only liquid that expands to float as a solid to prevent it sinking until lakes and oceans are solid ice. These things foretell what God is doing just as a baby conceived and born to sex defines what those parts are for. It is prophecy or predictable science via observation of function.
The role of religion should be the same as science, to inform people of reality that God is. So the asteroid holes or rocket holes and other awesome factors are not the topic i am covering. The fact it existed for 36,600 years from day 2 of 39,000 BC until 2370 BC and will again for 1000 years 2009-3009 BC. The vapor that freezes on the top of canopy reflects over heating, and then sink as solid chrystals thru gas water vapor. As already stated, because ice floats on water, so does ice chrystals flat above water drops; the hot vapor at the bottom of this 40 feet rises to the top to constantly recycle.
Thus the order of density is water drops, with gas water vapor above it, and chrystalized into ice above that where it is cold. The ice above vapor will sink thru the vapor to rest on water drops where it is heated to water and vapor again while the vapor rising above the ice will freeze to then sink.
The cycle is not that of winds that create hail stones, but mere density created by trapped heat and radiation.

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I submit the following New year Era as another confirmation of Flood year. In studying and poshere ting the Armenian Era which places the Era as 552 AD July 9 as twice 1460 years back to Flood year 2369 BC July 9; it is clear they move the date Koyak 1 three days forward from Egyptian July 6 and as two days back from Persian July 11. (By the way the next 1460 years is 2012 AD unveiling the astral math connection passed onto the Maya.)
However today, in analyzing the Yezdezred calendar difference, the Gatha days (epagum) were clearly set back in its Era of 632 AD because they fall on Jun 11 five days before Egyptian Koyak 1 on Jun 16. What I further noticed besides this Gatha location never existing prior to 632 AD is that this Era marks whole units of 1000 years being 3000 years from 2369 BC. In detail it means Koyak 1 as 2369 BC on July 6 is 3000 years before Koyak 1 on Jun 16 of 632 AD. Lacking 750 leap days (365+365+20) it perhaps assumes 20 solar leap days in 3000 years (as 3000 tropical years which Gregorian spans -20 in 2369 BC to +3 in 632 AD as 23 solar leap days for these 3000 years).
Thus Egyptian Koyak 1 as Yezdezred new year
2369 BC Julian July 6 = Greg Jun 16
632 AD Julian Jun 16 = Greg Jun 19
These 3000 tropical years are 3002 Egyptian (x365 days).
The internet is proving very true in proving that the spiprit of people desire the high priest Jannes and not anything that Moses knows. Quoted scripture states it as They prefer the lie because the truth is not in them. And like Cain they feel the spirit of hate in them to act on it and silence it is from God. The facts of the data are ignored.

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Diagnostics of a water vapors canopy.
It is being said that the ideal canopy is 10cm of water. If this were so then the rain for 40 days would be 1/4 cm per day divided by 24 hours which is a rainfall of 0.0104 cm per day. Obviously not a rainfall but a mist.

The problem with 40 feet of water isnt the weight or pressure on the atmosphere, but rather the amount of heat it would hold to the Earth. But the problem isnt with 40 feet. Due to centifugal force, the 40 feet of water over the equator would be totally absent at the poles and thus letting heat out, and near the poles only 10cm thick as stated. Thus a model cannot portray and absolute constant thickness of canopy over the whole Earth's atmosphere. Next, it is clear that this canopy must have a reflective ability to a oid overheating the Earth. This is accomplished by reflecting 75% of all light so that 25% is what keeps the Earth between 65-95 degrees F. The water vapor at the bottom of the canopy is the hottest and rises 40 feet to the top where it freezes and then reflects 75% of the solar constant. When it freezes it then sinks to the bottom of the canopy where it re-evaporates and rises again. The temperature layer of this location is currently at (50 miles or 85 km) altitude above sea level. However, with 40 feet of fresh water...

It also occurs to me that the volume of water contributed by the breaking up of "fountains of the great deep" (Gen 7:11) is not accounted for in anyone's calculations, including yours.

[Elijah]

fountains of the great deep is an english translation for water that springs out of the earth. If you know astronomy from 2240-1513 BC, it all uses metphoric language referring to the face of the planet, the front, the rear, the opposing of it etc. When a planet is resurrected it rises out of water or it rises out of earth. When the planet rises out of the water, the planet springs forth or springs up (literally popping up if you ever watched anything rising because of bent light), the same with setting, it slows down and lingers and then suddenly pops down, the light is bent until it is beyond angle and stops bending instantly so disappears.
This is the same with water from the deep; it rises out of the earth. It is a reference to deep ocean tsunami in water already existing, and coming in from earth horizon where no sea is seen because the sea is so far away. Imagine where you live, no where near the ocean, and a wall of water comes, and as you thrash to survive it is salt water, yet you know the ocean is 300 milea away. How do you want these words to be written when you write down your experience.
There is no water in magma, the water in the magma of volcanoes is from oceans not from the mantle. The mantle is not made up of water, the water goes down the major faults and gets mixed into the mantle cracks where the water even causes the melting of these cracks.
so creationists lie by saying the mantle has so much water in it because they steal that from science which says so much water is in the magma coming out of the volcanoes.
Both atheist scientists and creationists will create lies by jumping on what they think is said by someone. There is an ozone hole of los angeles because of the pollution trapped in its little corner shelf that it is, and there are ozone holes over the poles. So i once heard a JW only 7 years older than me become an elder and say in a speech that the holes are punched in by rockets and missles.
Atomic fission splits uranium atoms, but atomic fusion will fuse two hydropgen atoms like the sun does and so people said the H-bomb had the power of the sun and one bomb would blow up all Earth. Lies are created from other peoples words who had more truth in their words. Creationism is about hype and media and selling books. I am not. When i see i am wrong, i know the taste of my toes.

[Elijah]

2 miles of Mount Ararat covered by sinking into 2 miles of ocean is 80 feet per day in 150 days when the ark then grounds on submerged ararat 22 feet under water.

The moon tugs on earth twice a day so this causes the magma flow from under earth to under water to pulse rather than flow a steady 3 feet per hour. The reaction is rise of ocean floor and drop of land mass in 40 foot cycles every 12.5 hours totalling 80 feet per day. On Xmass some years ago Jehovah lifted one side of a cracked floor by 45 feet and sent 30 feet of water to 3000 miles of coastline. These 230,000 people sacrificed can now save 6 billion who learn from this and apply it to Noahs Flood.

Learn how?   If asteroid hits, then beleive, haul butt before 7 days, the base of Mount Ararat at 5000/6000 feet will again be submerged by ocean 580 miles away when Mediterranean, Black Sea, Caspian Sea, and Indian Ocean once again meet. Blessed by Armenia for she will know Little Ararat will not Big Ararat and Armenia herself will show gratitude by sending boats of food to them on Big Ararat.

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fountains of the great deep is an english translation for water that springs out of the earth. If you know astronomy from 2240-1513 BC, it all uses metphoric language referring to the face of the planet, the front, the rear, the opposing of it etc. The planet rises out of the water, the planet springs forth or springs up

The Hebrew word for rising is not used here, nor the word for lifted-up, but rather the word "to be seen".  The text doesn't support the idea of rising out of anything.

(literally popping up if you ever watched anything rising because of bent light), the same with setting, it slows down and lingers and then suddenly pops down, the light is bent until it is beyond angle and stops bending instantly so disappears.
This is the same with water from the deep. it is a reference to deep ocean tsunami inm water already existing, and coming in from earth horizon where no sea is seen because the sea is so far away.

The word for fountains is never translated as waves, but as wells, fountains, and springs.  And "the deep" is used for anything deep, of which the sea is but one.  Modifiers and context decide what is meant.  The modifier "fountain" indicates water from under the land.  These same two words are used in Deuteronomy 8:7, "...fountains and depths that spring out of the valleys and hills."  Both words evoke things from below, and fountains is always water out of land.  The modifier used to indicate sea waves means height or top.   Therefore, the words chosen clearly refer to deep land aquifers.

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How can you be this blind. You repeat as YOUR truth the same thing i said and you use it to say it doesnt rise. Where do you see me saying anywhere that a Hebrew word for rising exists there. You yourself speak the fact it says come out from under, come out from beneath. HELLO... the stars and planets every morning come out from beneath the deep. It isn't going to say rise for water because rise means to go up to heaven. Planets go up to heaven, water does not.

YOUR QUOTES
And "the deep" is used for ... the sea is but one.

Modifiers and context decide what is meant
fountains and depths  THAT SPRING OUT OF

You are the one using the words spring out of; do these words mean to spring DOWN or do they spring UP, do they spring IN or do they spring OUT, so are you forbidding the use of the word OUT when referring to rising planets OUT of the earth. When you say spring OUT are you forbidding the use of the word UP (spring up), or rising water .... does spring up, mean rise up, or does water drain down when it springs up. You are making issues where there are none because i see science and you see words. I see Jehovah as he is in realities, and you see him as words say by dictionary.
Do i get spanked if i say not spring out but i say spring up or spring forth? Will you say there is no up or there is no forth. The picking at words creates more false beliefs than it clarifies truth. You accuse me of claiming a Hebrew word rising here. This is why people do not know God as Jehovah, because those who know Jehovah KNOW what proves to be. They dont argue the words, they see the science facts.

Both words evoke things from below,
WHAT ARE THE SUN MOON AND STARS BEFORE THEY RISE.
GUESS.  THEY ARE BELOW.

and fountains is always water out of land.
WHAT IS THE HORIZON IF IT ISNT LAND

the words chosen clearly refer to deep land aquifers.
AND YOU SAY SO
(but Jehovah's true science  -his word in motion-  does not)
is the tweezing and squeezing of words claimed to be words of God then above and priority toward science facts which are the very words of God. God will freeze water whether the bible says so or not. His words which command water to freeze are far more powerful than any words that man puts down as being Gods. Every passage is interpreted different from any book no matter who writes it. This conversation reminds me of a sales person at Lowes today who insisted there is no electricity unless a load is put on it in the form of an appliance. He said you cannot have current from a hot to a ground or it will trip the breaker and you then have no current.

(It was an issue about a tenant who found the previous tenant had taped swim pool wires and buried them in the ground so that the meter was spinning until a man cut the wires and  the meter looked like it stopped... going from spinning fast to slow normal trickle. My true electric bill outside the budget plan is $1600 and i too have wires the previous owner buried. This man insisted that the current would trip the breaker, or there was no breaker... duh but that would mean a fire because anything that trips a breaker will instead burn a fire if there is no breaker, no one teaches people any more, how come.)

The breaker is only to stop and prevent the path from melting or burning. What we call a LOAD is merely resistance to prevent that too... the light bulb though white hot is not melting or burning away in a fire, so it is a load. A motor is a load. But even a ground wire to dry ground or damp ground is a load versus wet ground. The load is only the resistance which will always exist either as more load or less load. There is no such thing as no load. Load is the resistance to the flowing current, and only if the load is very great does it then stop all current as an insulator. Yet he could not see this and thought of direct wire as impossible to leak current pushed by voltage. In fact his mind refused to use the words push current but kept saying pull current, and he refused to say push electricity but kept saying pull electricity and draw electricity. Always imply that electricity never pushes but always pulls and draws merely because the words are used by people.
I rest my case as having won. And only the blind will not see it. When your words mean more than reality, you have then lost God. The people who claim the earth is flat are the same who insist water exists in ALL the mantle below the crust.
You need to back up where Jehovah proves that the crust was sprung upin the Indian ocean in Dec 2004 by 45 feet proving that he dropped land and SPRUNG UP  (um sprung forth, sprung out) the ocean floor every 12 hours by the moon because the mantle had been mleted by asteroid impact. 40 feet every 12 hours for 150 days is 2 miles from base of Ararat to peak of Ararat creating a 2 mile DEPTH ocean around the  planet.
To say this will not happen again is the same as sying God's kingdom (Jerusalem) would never be destroyed by Babylon nor by Romans. When it happens, it is not who was right or who was wrong; it will be who is dead and who is not, those who listened and believed will be alive.

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How can you be this blind. You repeat as YOUR truth the same thing i said and you use it to say it doesnt rise. Where do you see me saying anywhere that a Hebrew word for rising exists there. You yourself speak the fact it says come out from under, come out from beneath. HELLO... the stars and planets every morning come out from beneath the deep. It isn't going to say rise for water because rise means to go up to heaven. Planets go up to heaven, water does not.

YOUR QUOTES
And "the deep" is used for ... the sea is but one.

Modifiers and context decide what is meant
fountains and depths  THAT SPRING OUT OF

You are the one using the words spring out of; do these words mean to spring DOWN or do they spring UP, do they spring IN or do they spring OUT, so are you forbidding the use of the word OUT when referring to rising planets OUT of the earth. When you say spring OUT are you forbidding the use of the word UP (spring up), or rising water .... does spring up, mean rise up, or does water drain down when it springs up. You are making issues where there are none because i see science and you see words. I see Jehovah as he is in realities, and you see him as words say by dictionary.
Do i get spanked if i say not spring out but i say spring up or spring forth? Will you say there is no up or there is no forth. The picking at words creates more false beliefs than it clarifies truth. You accuse me of claiming a Hebrew word rising here. This is why people do not know God as Jehovah, because those who know Jehovah KNOW what proves to be. They dont argue the words, they see the science facts.

I seem to have misunderstood you.  My first paragraph was a response to what I thought you were referring to, namely Genesis 1:9 where the land first appears.  I thought you were saying that the earth (you said PLANET, singular) rose out of the water.  And I said there is no word for rising/lifting (in Genesis 1:9).  I should not have assumed that was the scripture you were alluding to.  I guess you weren't alluding to scripture at all.

If I misuderstood you, I apologize.

Both words evoke things from below,
WHAT ARE THE SUN MOON AND STARS BEFORE THEY RISE.
GUESS.  THEY ARE BELOW.

and fountains is always water out of land.
WHAT IS THE HORIZON IF IT ISNT LAND

the words chosen clearly refer to deep land aquifers.
AND YOU SAY SO
(but Jehovah's true science  -his word in motion-  does not)
is the tweezing and squeezing of words claimed to be words of God then above and priority toward science facts which are the very words of God. God will freeze water whether the bible says so or not. His words which command water to freeze are far more powerful than any words that man puts down as being Gods. Every passage is interpreted different from any book no matter who writes it. This conversation reminds me of a sales person at Lowes today who insisted there is no electricity unless a load is put on it in the form of an appliance. He said you cannot have current from a hot to a ground or it will trip the breaker and you then have no current.

(It was an issue about a tenant who found the previous tenant had taped swim pool wires and buried them in the ground so that the meter was spinning until a man cut the wires and  the meter looked like it stopped... going from spinning fast to slow normal trickle. My true electric bill outside the budget plan is $1600 and i too have wires the previous owner buried. This man insisted that the current would trip the breaker, or there was no breaker... duh but that would mean a fire because anything that trips a breaker will instead burn a fire if there is no breaker, no one teaches people any more, how come.)

The breaker is only to stop and prevent the path from melting or burning. What we call a LOAD is merely resistance to prevent that too... the light bulb though white hot is not melting or burning away in a fire, so it is a load. A motor is a load. But even a ground wire to dry ground or damp ground is a load versus wet ground. The load is only the resistance which will always exist either as more load or less load. There is no such thing as no load. Load is the resistance to the flowing current, and only if the load is very great does it then stop all current as an insulator. Yet he could not see this and thought of direct wire as impossible to leak current pushed by voltage. In fact his mind refused to use the words push current but kept saying pull current, and he refused to say push electricity but kept saying pull electricity and draw electricity. Always imply that electricity never pushes but always pulls and draws merely because the words are used by people.

I rest my case as having won. And only the blind will not see it. When your words mean more than reality, you have then lost God.

These are not my words, but the words of scripture itself.  Fountains are never used for waves of the sea as you claim (tsunami).  Instead, scripture says the fountains of the great deep were literally "split open/broken into" ("baqa" in the niphal stem).  That's not a tidal wave (a top of the "yam") , but an chamber in the earth, i.e. well/spring/fountain -- breaking open.

The people who claim the earth is flat are the same who insist water exists in ALL the mantle below the crust.
You need to back up where Jehovah proves that the crust was sprung upin the Indian ocean in Dec 2004 by 45 feet proving that he dropped land and SPRUNG UP  (um sprung forth, sprung out) the ocean floor every 12 hours by the moon because the mantle had been mleted by asteroid impact. 40 feet every 12 hours for 150 days is 2 miles from base of Ararat to peak of Ararat creating a 2 mile DEPTH ocean around the  planet.
To say this will not happen again is the same as sying God's kingdom (Jerusalem) would never be destroyed by Babylon nor by Romans. When it happens, it is not who was right or who was wrong; it will be who is dead and who is not, those who listened and believed will be alive.

You are reading into the text words and meanings which aren't there.

[Elijah]

Tides or tidal waves are surface waves created by the moon's pull. The pull is an uplift of ALL water-depth below. Tsunami is not tidal wave, in fact a tsunami can be cause by lift or by drop, it is not a wave at all, but a flow of water to level itself out. However, even this is not sole force in every tsunami. The mere fact that water flow from all depth to surface is headed to shore, it has no place to go, but UP into the air. This is not a surface wave, but rather it is deep ocean water (current), flowing on the ocean floor, and forced to flow uphill, or upward, because of more water behind it. Anyone could easily be alluded to asking where does this more water come from if they do not understand shockwave impact, of any type and every kind. Thus many tsunami are exactly that, namely ocean depth, or water of the deep. This tsunami of the Flood is not ordinary because it does not recede from coastal shores exposing ocean floor. Many tsunami do not. If the water goes out first, it is a good sign to run. BUT not every facet or factor makes this happen every time. In the case of what is coming, it will be assumed tsunami impact will recede the water that hits our coasts. But it will not recede because the continents will drop, and so (just as it says with the Flood) the water will come and come and come.

I was never offended, I get frustrated. To make issue of some other imagination by arguing with me that some how the moon will turn into 2200 miles of blood because word says so will only frustrate me until i get smart enough to drop it and why bother trying to teach what cannot be seen by men who dont wish to see. I dont exect you to agree, but i do hope you value somethign here that if and when happens you apply it rather than be the fools we all are in 20/20 hindsight. I am not trying to intepret a book, nor its words, I am trying to see and prove a true event. I feel Moses was a lousy writer and he says so, he had his  brother speak for him because no one ever understood what the heck he was talking about or what he meant by his choice of words. I was raised between two worlds too, and i find no one ever understands me either, whether it be writing or speaking. In conversation more like my speaking because they take my writing as sounding negative by choice of words. Yet in writing more people like my topics and depth more than my speaking because those who like it get what they wish to see and hear.... not always what i meant; like a good song that people are hearing it as they want to, or feel it.
Simply, the Flood, global, the math is there, the science is there. Argue saying the words of Genesis dont match, and the only reason they dont match is because of the writers bad choice of words or perspective, not because the writer is wrong. I am the same, much i say is not wrong at all, all very much true, but seems to always be a bad choice of words as others see it. But it is not right to always blame the speaker or writer on words... petty picking, deliberate fault finding, insecurity self defence looking to blame.

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Tidal waves are surface waves created from uplift of all water depth below by the moon's pull. Tsunami is not tidal wave, in fact a tsunami can be cause by lift or by drop, it is not a wave at all, but a flow of water to level itself out. However, even this is not sole force in every tsunami. The mere fact that water flow from all depth to surface is headed to shore, it has no place to go but UP into the air. This is not a surface wave, but rather it is deep ocean water (current) flowing on the ocean floor and forced to flow uphill or upward because of more water behind it. Anyone could easily be alluded to asking where does this more water come from if they do not understand shockwave impact of any type and every kind. Thus many tsunami are exactly that namely ocean depth or water of the deep. This tsunami of the Flood is not ordinary because it does not recede to expose ocean floor. Many tsunami do not. If the water goes out first, it is a good sign to run. BUT not every facet or factor makes this happen every time. In the case of what is coming, it will be assumed tsunami impact will reced the water that hits our coasts. But it will not reced because the continents will drop, and so like it says with the Flood the water will come and come and come.

The word translated "fountains" is never used for sea water, and the word is in the plural, not the singular like your tsunami.  There are words that could well describe a tsunami, but those words are not used here.

I was never offended, I get frustrated. To make issue of some other imagination by arguing with me that some how the moon will turn into 2200 miles of blood because word says so will only frustrate me until i get smart enough to drop it and why bother trying to teach what cannot be seen by men who dont wish to see.

Only a scoffer would ignore clearly poetic language.  I am no scoffer, and a moon turning to blood is perfectly clear to me that it describes its appearance, and not its substance.  But there is poetic language for a tsunami and there is poetic language for a burst aquifer, and it is the latter we see in this passage.

I dont exect you to agree, but i do hope you value somethign here that if and when happens you apply it rather than be the fools we all are in 20/20 hindsight. I am not trying to intepret a book, nor its words, I am trying to see and prove a true event.

If there is proof, there is no need for faith.  Faith is the substance of things not seen, i.e. not proven. 

Proof convinces nobody.  Just read Exodus.  The proof of God's faithfulness and power were plainly proven every day.  But that proof didn't increase faith.

Blessed are they who having not seen (proof) yet have believed.

I feel Moses was a lousy writer and he says so, he had his  brother speak for him because no one ever understood what the heck he was talking about or what he meant by his choice of words.

Your statement is factually incorrect.  Torah is BRILLIANT, masterful writing.  It is an acknowledged masterpiece of semitic literature.  If you could read Hebrew, you would agree, unless you are like those who read Shakespeare and think he's a bad writer.

Moses didn't say he couldn't write.  He said he couldn't speak.  Speaking and writing are two very different things.  Speaking requires the assembly of coherent thought into coherent speech, quickly and consistently and clearly.  That's a lot of pressure if you haven't cultivated the abiltiy.  Writing is not subject to that pressure.  Many a good writer is a poor public speaker.

I was raised between two worlds too, and i find no one ever understands me either, whether it be writing or speaking. In conversation more like my speaking because they take my writing as sounding negative by choice of words. Yet in writing more people like my topics and depth more than my speaking because those who like it get what they wish to see and hear.... not always what i meant; like a good song that people are hearing it as they want to, or feel it.
Simply, the Flood, global, the math is there, the science is there.

Argue saying the words of Genesis dont match, and the only reason they dont match is because of the writers bad choice of words or perspective, not because the writer is wrong.

Your statement is contradicted by Scripture.  All scripture is written by inspiration of God (2 Timothy 3:16).  God doesn't inspire bad word choices or bad writing.

I am the same, much i say is not wrong at all, all very much true, but seems to always be a bad choice of words as others see it. But it is not right to always blame the speaker or writer on words... petty picking, deliberate fault finding, insecurity self defence looking to blame.

I don't blame anyone for sub-optimal composition of their own words.  But I see no excuse for anyone to bend/twist the clear statements of scripture to make them match an idea not indicated in the text or context, contradicting the plain sense of the text.

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Stating that fountains are never sea water. What word can a person coin if they are 700 feet above sea level west of Chicago in mid-farmland or Iowa and suddenly from the horizon in comes salt water. One can only express what it appears to be, all this water is coming out of the land (out of the horizon). What ever word you use, for this water out of the horizon, it will be assumed perhaps out from the ground, and it will be presumed to be fresh water. But surprise the ocean perhaps that you never ever saw in your life has you swimming and swallowing salt water.

The fact remains in two facets,
yes there was a canopy of fresh water (40 feet),
yes it will reflect 75% energy so that earth is not 400F;
and the water never came up to Flood the earth,
the earth fell down into the 2 mile deep ocean and came
back up. There are no extra waters other than the 40 feet.
They say fresh water polar ice caps would raise the oceans 200 feet. Obviously then to be formed in a single year
they are a reaction of rapid evaporation condensing back into falling ice and snow accumulation that scholars say extended down from the north, mostly over America (these caps carved american mountains into hills because they slid to and fro upon water).

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Stating that fountains are never sea water. What word can a person coin if they are 700 feet above sea level west of Chicago in mid-farmland or Iowa and suddenly from the horizon in comes salt water. One can only express what it appears to be, all this water is coming out of the land (out of the horizon). What ever word you use, for this water out of the horizon, it will be assumed perhaps out from the ground, and it will be presumed to be fresh water. But surprise the ocean perhaps that you never ever saw in your life has you swimming and swallowing salt water.

The fact remains in two facets,
yes there was a canopy of fresh water (40 feet),
yes it will reflect 75% energy so that earth is not 400F;
and the water never came up to Flood the earth,
the earth fell down into the 2 mile deep ocean and came
back up. There are no extra waters other than the 40 feet.

You're certainly welcome to contradict the Biblical narrative by ignoring the meaning of Hebrew words.  Everyone else is doing it.  Why shouldn't you also.

They say fresh water polar ice caps would raise the oceans 200 feet. Obviously then to be formed in a single year
they are a reaction of rapid evaporation condensing back into falling ice and snow accumulation that scholars say extended down from the north, mostly over America (these caps carved american mountains into hills because they slid to and fro upon water).