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« on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:39 PM »

How many actual archaeologists/classicists/historians actually read these forums?  Just curious. 

Not necessarily ancient near east/classical, just in general. 
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 08, 2008, 11:12 PM »

I as an academic Historian   !!!!do  and like you miss the professionals  indeed I doubt if many  participate .

We ha an golden time when ( see my posting in JAcobovici ) academic professionals like prof Collins  , prof graves and many others  participated.

Concerning me I studyd Mediaeval History with Ancient History,Modern History and Archaeology as Minors.

My thesis was about the Empress Judith second wife of Louis the Pious.
I,m glad you are here and I agree completely with you.

I admire Archaelogists /Hisitorians like  Dame Kathleen Kenyon( wonderfull detached clinical and scientific  .
Emmily Vermeulen (greek archeology ) and Sara.P Morris ( wonderfull  scientific article in Aegaeum  22 ( is on the net )

Publications : AEGAEUM


about the Potnia Asusua , scientific and readable  really a joy  a little pearl or diamond .


And of course Eric Cline  really a joy to read his articles and books unmaskering Archaelogical Fakery and Quakery  and pseudo science, he is first and formost a academic professional in his private life he is religious 





Stay well .

Turanclancath :)


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« Reply #2 on: Nov 09, 2008, 06:56 AM »

Well, I work in the US Southeast and Southwest so my skill set is tad different from you folks who deal in this classical stuff.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it!  I just don't even know if I would know what to do if I wandered upon an excavation over there.

My BA is in anthropology, which is generally what students wishing to work as an archaeologist in North America obtain their degree in.  However, my masters, which I didn't intend to get at the university where I DID obtain it is actually in history.  It's basically a program training people to be "heritage resource specialists."  In other words, I am not trained as a pure academic who does research out of pure curiosity or to fill some hole in the knowledge of a particular topic.  Rather, my training is more suited to the preservation of important archaeological and historic resources.

My masters thesis actually dealt with locating (either archivally or through archaeological survey) the local manifestations  of a small cottage industry that occured throughtout the southestern US in historic times. I won't say more since few people have written on the topic and I don't want to ID myself, lol.   ;D

But the classical world is so intriguing for so many reasons.  I just love reading about it. I'd also just love to learn how things differ from archaeology here in the US.  Just in the basic terms of field procedures. 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 11, 2008, 08:30 AM »

Well, I work in the US Southeast and Southwest so my skill set is tad different from you folks who deal in this classical stuff.  Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it!  I just don't even know if I would know what to do if I wandered upon an excavation over there.

My BA is in anthropology, which is generally what students wishing to work as an archaeologist in North America obtain their degree in.  However, my masters, which I didn't intend to get at the university where I DID obtain it is actually in history.  It's basically a program training people to be "heritage resource specialists."  In other words, I am not trained as a pure academic who does research out of pure curiosity or to fill some hole in the knowledge of a particular topic.  Rather, my training is more suited to the preservation of important archaeological and historic resources.

My masters thesis actually dealt with locating (either archivally or through archaeological survey) the local manifestations  of a small cottage industry that occured throughtout the southestern US in historic times. I won't say more since few people have written on the topic and I don't want to ID myself, lol.   ;D

But the classical world is so intriguing for so many reasons.  I just love reading about it. I'd also just love to learn how things differ from archaeology here in the US.  Just in the basic terms of field procedures. 

I am so pleased that an expert in anthropology is visiting 8)  In my readings over the years on Ancient Egypt and related Bible Lands it seems to me that the field of anthropology is rarely touched upon.  To me this seems to be a great shame, because it is the anthrolopogist that understands the culture of what is being uncovered.  One reason why I do so enjoy the output of American archaeological sites.

So a great Sekhmet roar for you sir an anthropologist, and visiting the board!  Thank you.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 12, 2008, 09:44 PM »

Lol, it's so strange to even hear someone say that.  I can't imagine an archaeologist not being an anthropologist.  Really, most archaeology is anthropological, whether you call it that or not.  Unless you are truly only an antiquarian that's interested in material remains for their own sake, odds are you are "doing" anthropology.  Once you make the leap into using the material remains to make inferences about the lifeways of it's producer, you've made the leap to anthropology. 

I wish my life was all Indiana Jones, but basically I have my own little swath of public land that I have watch over....locating, recording, and protecting (if necessary) archaeological sites to comply with federal law.  I do, however, seem to run into snakes quite a bit. :o
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 14, 2008, 06:31 AM »

Lol, it's so strange to even hear someone say that.  I can't imagine an archaeologist not being an anthropologist.  Really, most archaeology is anthropological, whether you call it that or not.  Unless you are truly only an antiquarian that's interested in material remains for their own sake, odds are you are "doing" anthropology.  Once you make the leap into using the material remains to make inferences about the lifeways of it's producer, you've made the leap to anthropology. 

I wish my life was all Indiana Jones, but basically I have my own little swath of public land that I have watch over....locating, recording, and protecting (if necessary) archaeological sites to comply with federal law.  I do, however, seem to run into snakes quite a bit. :o

Emphasis is mine. 

Thank you sir for your time.  I emphasised what I wanted to address in this besides snakes you face 500 years of prejudice against Native Americans.  While those in the Bible Lands face not just religious persecution, but nearly 1700 years of religious teachings and nearly 200 years of treasure digging while the science was being formed.  That is a bunch of stuff to deal with, and I do believe sir, they have snakes in some of those areas as well. ::)

To you and yours sir, a nice day as to all.

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« Reply #6 on: Nov 15, 2008, 09:24 AM »

Post Script:

I believe with all the stuff that Biblical Scholars have to deal with in their work.  That it will, require one of three things, an archaeological finding that opens the discussion in unknown directions, an Indian Jones, or a fed up scriptural based Granny private historian, to break the status quo of today's Biblical chronology.    ;)
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 15, 2008, 10:32 AM »

Oh, I replied to your last post but it must not have posted right!  I didn't mean to imply bib archs are Indiana Jones.  I just meant that's a misconception about archaeologists in general.

Archaeology is tedious work.  It's enjoyable but not near as swashbuckling as its portrayed.  New discoveries that  cause radical pardigm shifts are fairly rare.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 15, 2008, 11:18 AM »

  New discoveries that  cause radical pardigm shifts are fairly rare.

Dear Bkrell, I understand that about Indiana Jones lol  8)  So, I give you, Granny!  I am a grandmother.  In Egypt, and the Near East new discoveries are extremely possible, as this past week has shown.  The Roman era earring from Jerusalem and the discovery of Pharaoh Teti's mother tomb in Egypt. 


New Pyramid Found in Egypt: 4,300-Year-Old Queen's Tomb

"I always say you never know what the sands of Egypt might hide," said Zahi Hawass, secretary general of Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities (SCA). 

In this, I have to agree with Dr. Hawass.
Her tomb might yet cast more light on the changes of the early 6th dynasty of her son Teti.  He certainly clamped down on Asiatics (understandable with Sargon the Great’s empire in Mesopotamia) and his (and sons) devotion, and elevation of Hathor in her fertility aspect. 


I am for one, grateful for the work of archaeologists, sir.  Again thank you so very much for visiting our board. 8)
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 20, 2008, 03:11 AM »

http://members.bib-arch.org/publication.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=35&Issue=1&ArticleID=10

This article in the newest  BAR is extremely important.
Shows the limits  and  dangers of Archaelogy   compared to primary written sources .
See the last 10 lines of the article ).

Turanclancath :)

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« Reply #10 on: Aug 07, 2009, 08:20 PM »

Hello, considering this topic is calling all archaeologists who use this forum I thought this might be the place to post a question I have concerning my studies and archaeology. Currently I am a college student majoring in modern languages but my real desire is to study archaeology, specifically old Testament Biblical archaeology. Since the university I attend, which is the University of Puerto Rico, does not offer archaeology as a major I decided to remain with the major I am currently pursuing and when completed continue with my master's and PHD in archaeology. I have been looking at the universities in the UK to pursue my academic career and was wondering if anyone here that has more knowledge pertaining to archaeology and the universities involved than me could direct me as to which of them in the UK are favorable for me and the career I'm pursuing. I really appreciate all the help, opinions and thoughts. Thank you!
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