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Hi SekhmetSome scholars are claiming that the end of the Trojan war and the date Odysseus returned home was April 16, 1178 BCE. The records kept regarding the sky (Sun, stars, earth movements, etc.) enabled scholars to ascertain that date. Now I understand that the Trojan text gave information that included the Phoenicians (Punics) in that war. Homer wrote about 700-800 BCE so he would be writing about a date almost 500 years earlier.The Phoenicians were great traders and warriors. From Tyre in Lebanon, they built Carthage in North Africa (Tunisia) and had a settlement in Sicily and who knows where else. I believe Hanibal was a Phoenician. They fought in many wars, including the Punic wars against Rome. I think Punic refers to their language.I picked up this information a little here and there. I keep saying I'm going to read the Punic Wars books but haven't yet. Phoenicians are famous for discovering the color purple. I wish there were some throwbacks left in Lebanon so they could kick Hezballah's butts to Mars, where it's snowing!
Phoenician Encyclopedia: A Bequest Unearthed, Phoenicia and the Phoenicians, Punic, Canaanites -- Encyclopedia PhoenicianaThis is a very good ( but subjective but who is objective ) link a real treasure grove for Phunician history.And this one is also exelent click on CarthagoLivius. Articles on Ancient HistoryThe Phunicians and their colony Carhahgo( founded circa 800/750 ) had some very bad horrible cruel habits like sacrificing infants to Baal by burning them( see the Holy Bible )
Oh those horrible Phoenicians! All I can say is they had the decentency to bury their slaughtered children. The Greeks abandoned their unwanted or deformed children in wilds for the beasts to have or if a stranger wanted them and saved them first. Opedius, the King of Thebes?Let us not forget the Romans and their Fields of Mar's again where unwanted or deformed babies were abandoned for the picking by humans in need of a child, slave, or the dogs. Such nice people.The ancient Hebrews and Egyptians had the kindest. The Hebrews took care of their unwanted, deformed children or maybe they used Egyptian contraceptions.
Geneticists have revealed that the men who were called Phoenicians had a special marker on the male-only Y chromosome that designated them as Phoenicians. Genetic studies by the Welcome Trust Sanger Institute in England say as many as one in seventeen men living in communities around the Mediterranean could be decended from these ancient mariners.
To MichaelWell, that's interesting. Wouldn't Lebanon have been part of Canaanite back then? The Phoenicians distinguished themselves from the other Sea Peoples in ancient history.Researchers have said that the Philistines were not the backward people that history says they were. The Jews warred with them, so wrote disparagingly about them. Their pottery was distinct and shards from this pottery have been found scattered inland. But I haven't heard of any pottery with purple. Wouldn't you think if Philistines and Phoenicians were the same people purple would be found on shards? Ancient history says the Philistines were destroyed when the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BCE. But the Phoenicians' legends reach way way back. But I don't know.
Hello Michael.You hit a problem i,m a long time speculating about.Are the Abram Philistines the same people as lets call them the Seapeople Philistines The Bible word and the Egyptian words arent exactly the same !!!I have the impression they arent the same!Superflucious word similarity says nothing ( its 1 of the basic errors in linguistics if you discover some words in an language looking the same in an totally other language) .Perhaps the Regio was the same not the People.Like in our country the Netherlands the Frisians a tribe mentioned in Tacitus De Germania and 1500 years later The Frisians in Chronicles fighting the German emperor Charles the 5 ( Habsburg ).Quasi ( not exactly the later Frisians had a smaller Regio ) the same Regio not the same people.Learned co posters Sekhmet ,Michael and others what is your opinion ?turanclancath:)
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