Roman theory 364-day year and 15 year indiction

[Elijah]

I have no idea where a year of 364 days comes from. I see it is 52 weeks; the Dead Sea Scroll uses it, and there are whispers of it thru history. Nor do I know where the Romans used the 15 year tax cycle. But I noted today on Feb 27 of 2009 that the 13 year Mars calendar of 13x 360 days = 6x 780 day orbit
is 780 days or 2 years 2 months short of 15 years.
So I did the math and I got.
7x 780 days = 15x 364 days
Even the Maya can use that one, since Mars is 3x 260
this is 21x 260 = 15x 364 days
Since the 364 day calendar is not lunar, perhaps this is the resolved puzzle. Does anyone know the connection between 753 BC and Mars and 15 year cycle? If not am I the first?

Thoth 1 new year for Roman Era
(761-758 BC Mar 1)
(757 BC Feb 29)
(756-)   753 BC Feb 28 new moon, the Toth moon
752-749 BC Feb 27
748-745 BC Feb 26

15-year Mars (7x 780 days = 15x 364 days)
753 BC Feb 28 new moon, the Toth moon
738 BC Feb 9   Mesor 21
723 BC Jan 21   Mesor  6
708 BC Jan 2   Epipi  21
694 BC Dec 15   Epipi 6
679 BC Nov 26   Payni 21
664 BC Nov 7   Payni 6
649 BC Oct 19   Pakon 21
634 BC Oct 1   Pakon 6
619 BC Sep 12   Parmuti 21
604 BC Aug 24   Parmuti 6
589 BC Aug 5   Pamenot 21
574 BC July 18   Pamenot 6
559 BC Jun 29   Mekir 21
544 BC Jun 10   Mekir 6
529 BC May 22   Tybi 21
514 BC May 4   Tybi 6
499 BC Apr 15   Koyak 21
484 BC Mar 27   Koyak 6
469 BC Mar 8   Hatyr 21
454 BC Feb 18   Hatyr 6
439 BC Jan 30   Paopi 21
424 BC Jan 11   Paopi 6
410 BC Dec 24   Toth 21
395 BC Dec 5   Toth 6
380 BC Nov 16   Mesor 26
365 BC Oct 28   Mesor 11
350 BC Oct 10   Epipi 26
335 BC Sep 21   Epipi 11
320 BC Sep 2   Payni 26
305 BC Aug 14   Payni 11
290 BC July 27   Pakon 26
275 BC July 8   Pakon 11
260 BC Jun 19   Parmuti 26
245 BC May 31   Parmuti 11
230 BC May 13   Pamenot 26
215 BC Apr 24   Pamenot 11
200 BC Apr 5   Mekir 26
185 BC Mar 17   Mekir 11
170 BC Feb 27   Tybi 26
155 BC Feb 8   Tybi 11
140 BC Jan 20   Koyak 26
125 BC Jan 2   Koyak 11
111 BC Dec 14   Hatyr 26
  96 BC Nov 25   Hatyr 11
  81 BC Nov 6   Paopi 26
  66 BC Oct 19   Paopi 11
  51 BC Sep 30   Toth 26
  50 BC Sep 29   Toth 25
  49 BC Sep 27    Toth 24
  48 BC Sep 26    Toth 23
  47 BC Sep 25    Toth 22
  46 BC Sep 24    Toth 21 + 90 = Dec 23 = Koyak 21

Marduk is 780-day Mars (15 years of 364 days)
but if assumed the winter solstice sun of Julian Dec 23
on Gregorian Dec 21  then this date is 90 days earlier
than that sun. However, the January 1 New Year
is still 9 days beyond that. Or do we assume the 90 days were added to Oct 3 to get Jan 1.

[Elijah]

On the topic of 52-year Marduk as Mars.
(83-year Marduk as Jupiter is another topic from the same year 2009 BC when Eusebius says Abram was 9 and by the way this is why the mistake of a 949 year Marduk as Mars
presumes Abram was born in Year 940 but they couldnt get their 360-day and 365-day to correlate to prove this and so the Greeks won the argument of a 2958 BC Flood instead of Babylon with 2947 BC Flood. The problem then was created that for 5200 BC Adam the preFlood world had to be reduced from 2256 down to 2242 which isnt difficult in the astral sence that they could equate it as 13 year mars or 12 year Jupiter. Oh new thought here = even though 13x 360 days falls short of 13 full years and so could be confused as 12th year Jupiter, I realize that the advance of Jupiter by one constellation per year for 12 years means the span between solar conjunctions is 13 months. So the 13 month morningstar Jupiter was confused with the 13 year mars calendar of Marduk. 13 confused with 13 is more probable than 12 confused with 12.

The history positions of Mars as Damuzi and as Marduk is best illustrated by this chart I drew up here today... all night, I couldnt sleep with March 10 so close.

[Moses]

364-Day Calendar Year
 
The ages listed for the Holy Bible Antediluvian Patriarchs spawned 4 major calendar threads or whole calendar systems in later history.  The Egyptian Calendar, Sun Kingdoms’ Calendars and the Jewish Calendar branched to share certain lunar/solar calendar tools described in Ages of Adam.  Another variation on the solar calendar theme occurs for the 364-day-calendar-year.  The 364-day-calendar-year was the source for Antediluvian Calendar ages and likely, the original system ordained to Moses.
 
The 364-day-calendar-year or 364-day-Ethiopic-year entails the solar-side of the l/s calendar.  The last 5-Ethiopic-years in the primary age of Seth equal 1,820-days using 364-day-Ethiopic-years (Eqn. 1).  Moreover, Seth’s last 7-Tzolken-sacred-years in the secondary 807-year age are equivalent to 1,820-days (Eqn. 2).
 
The 364-day-Ethiopic-year depends upon measuring 10-days of l/s separation time between the 354-day-lunar-year and a 364-day-solar-year.  Lunar operations develop continuing Sabbath 7-day-weeks.  Two schools of thought exist in Judaism.  A series of weeks and on a greater scale, a series of Sabbath 7-year-weeks build through the 50-year Jubilee Cycle.  Solar-side calendar methods include the 364-day-calendar-year and the 365-day-solar-year.  The final day at the end of the year is the impetus that gives rise to recurring ideas of numerical matching.  The 364-day-Ethiopic-year is the solar-side counterpart to lunar-based Jewish calendar science.  Persistent use of 364-days created perhaps the least popular and most misunderstood branch of Judaism.  Analyses of Seth’s ages show whole number, integer benefits gained by reckoning.  A definite 364-day tie exists for the later Antediluvian Patriarch character ages.
 
An impressive list of religious texts provide evidence the 364-day-Ethiopic-year combines with more elaborate 50-year Jubilee Cycles.  Sacred Jewish writing refers to spiritual angels in heavenly metaphors.  We can trace the 364-day-Ethiopic-year references to at least four ancient manuscripts:
 
·         Holy Bible, Genesis 5:6-7
Primary 105-year age of Seth
Secondary 807-year age of Seth
·         Book of Jubilees, Ch. 6:32
“And command thou the children of Israel that they observe the years according to this reckoning- three hundred and sixty-four days, and (these) will constitute a complete year, and they will not disturb its time from its days and from its feasts; …”
·         Ethiopic Book of Enoch I, Ch. 74:4
“And the harmony of the world becomes complete every three hundred and sixty-fourth state of it. … ”
·        Dead Sea Scrolls, 4Q321 (Mishmarot Ba)
Parchment fragment from Qumran Cave 4 and the archive catalog file number assigned, or the alternative name: Calendrical Document
 
Jubilee Cycles determine reckoning in the less famous Testimony of Twelve Patriarchs book.  Original estimates placed the writing after the second century A.D., this short work mixes Apocryphal style regarding the Book of Jubilees with the testimony manner seen for the biblical Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  Hebrew customs encouraged giving a "testimony" to children.  The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs is the testimonies of Jacob's twelve sons to their children.  Discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls also found fragments of this work.  An older origin combining the 364-day-calendar-year and the 50-year Jubilee Cycle is certain.
 
Equations
 
1.                  Uses a 365-year-solar-cycle with 364-day-Ethiopic-years
5 Years
x 364-day-Ethiopic-Year
= 1,820-days extra in 5-Ethiopic-years of 364-days
 
2.                  5-Ethiopic-years equal 7-Tzolken-sacred-years
7-Tzolken-sacred-years
x 260-day-Tzolken-sacred-years
= 1820-days extra in 7-Tzolken-sacred-years of 260-days
 
3.                  Mayan Units count 360-day-Tun-year
18 Uinals
x 20-days per Uinal
= 360-day-Tun-year
 
4.                  Zodiac is a circle that describes one 360-day-Tun-year or 360-degrees
360-day-Tun-year/72 divide
= 5-days
 
Solar-side 364-day-Ethiopic-years set apart the last 4-days beyond a regular 360-day midpoint length of year.  Both Egyptian and Mayan calendars celebrated a special 5-day feast period at the end of the year.  Exactly where and when the Jewish Calendar branched with respect to 364-days is unsure.  Calculations for a 364-day-Ethiopic-year deeply trace remote Antediluvian Calendar ages.  The Ethiopic Enoch I may prove to be the necessary bridge joining the Egyptian and early Jewish calendar systems.
 
Enoch I perpetuates views concerning cosmology by dividing 10-days l/s separation time between the 354-day-lunar-year and the 364-day-Ethiopic-year.  The lunar-side is less than 360-days.  Enoch I allocated 6-days to the 354-day-lunar-year for the lunar-side of l/s operations.  The solar-side assigns 4-days to the sun and stars beyond a midpoint 360-day length of year.  Nightly observers divided the Zodiac into 72 parts, with one Royal day-star wielding influence over each of four quarters.  Quadrant partition themes suit the Mayan Calendar combination of 18 Uinals multiplying by 20-days in the 360-day-Tun-year (Eqn. 3).  Every 1/72 of the Zodiac represents 5-days or 5-degrees in a 360-degree circle (Eqn. 4).  The 52-year Calendar Round was the Mayan version of the Jewish 50-year Jubilee Cycle.
 
The Slavonic Book of Enoch II mixes lunar/solar calendar references in a most unusual way.  The 19-year lunar/solar calendar reveals the lunar course in chapter 16:8.  Seven intercalary months of 30-days each insert 210-days of l/s separation time.  Babylonian influences on Jewish Calendar monthly names resulted in adoption of 19-year-l/s-cycles with the framework of Metonic style 19-year patterns.  Another reference in chapter 16:3 cites the 365 and one-quarter day solar year.  A sense of the later Roman Julian calendar was in effect.  Most scholars label the Slavonic Book of Enoch II as a product of the second century B.C.E.  The origins of Enoch II are obscure.  Such is the case with many other ancient manuscripts.
 
Mayans implemented the 364-day-calendar-year with similar provisions as the Ethiopians.  The Mayan Calendar is principally a solar calendar.  After every 360-day-Tun-year, a special 5-day Wayeb festival period completed the 365-day-Haab-solar-year.  Four days were spiritual Year Bearers that held significance for Mesoamerican culture imbued with calendar worship.  Their base 20 numbering system set aside 4-days as Windows to the New Year, which universally divide everything into four respective quadrants.  One last final day landed on New Year’s Day to increment the next 360-day-Tun-year.  Wayeb days rotated in single file order that ultimately measure five different 4-Tun-year-cycles.  Like our modern 4-year-Leap-Cycle results in 5-Leap-Days spanning 20-years, the Mayan method accounts for one Katun 20-year-l/s-cycle.  The prefix “Ka” attaches to the 360-day-Tun-year to indicate one 20-year-Katun-cycle.  The 260-day-Tzolken-sacred-year shifts by 5-days in the cycle of day-names.  Angels and gods were prominent calendar figures in the Mesoamerican pantheon.
 
Most Mayan groups place their New Year’s Day on the vernal equinox in a pattern reminiscent of early Judaism.  However, there are at least three different Year Bearer sequences and possible variations approach twenty.  Different cultural groups followed different 365-day-Haab-solar-year placements so that New Year's Day occurs at different times.  Mayan 365-day-Haab-solar-years omit Leap Day calculations.  New Year's Day would recess backward around the Gregorian calendar at the rate of one day every four years.  Mayan O Pop was really the last day of an old 365-day-Haab-solar-year or the first day of a new 365-day-Haab-solar-year and always there were only 4-Year-Bearer-days.  The 364 day-Ethiopic-calendar-year includes four days added to 360 days.  Enoch I sums the 364-day-Ethiopic-year concisely.
 
Chapter 74:4
"And the harmony of the world of the world becomes complete every
three hundred and sixty-fourth state of it.  For the signs,"
 
Chapter 74:5
"The seasons,"
 
Chapter 74:6
"The years,"
 
Chapter 74:7
"And the days, Uriel showed me; the angel whom the Lord of Glory appointed over all the luminaries."
 
One last day every year reserves the practice that numerically matches X-days with X-years for the biblical Enoch and the Mayan Calendar.  Enoch’s lifetime age capped the Antediluvian Calendar 5200-year Great Cycle by adding the final, thirteenth 400-year-Baktun-cycle to the secondary age category total.  In the lifetime 365-year-solar-cycle age of Enoch, the last day following a 364-day-Ethiopic-year walks through an entire circuit (Genesis 5:23).  The Mayans went on to divide the 260-day-Tzolken-sacred-year into four quadrant partitions having 65-days each.  Numerical matching follows suit for the 260-year-Tzolken-sacred-cycle.  The primary 65-Tun-year age of Enoch specifies one-quadrant involving the 260-year-Tzolken-sacred-cycle (Genesis 5:21).  The remarkable system of 260-day-Tzolken-sacred-years, 360-day-Tun-years and 365-day-Haab-solar-years enabled the Mayans to project calculations some 52,000-years or more into the future.
 
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[Elijah]

Unsubstantaited claims.
The definition of unsubstantiated claims seems to be whether you quoted some book or famed author deemed as correct even if he or his book be wrong. Claims are substantiated by God. This does not mean by relgion or by priests or schools of priests with paper docs to claim they know so much. It is proven by true real science which is God. And that too has its false scientists and schools of false science. So it is not a matter of choose your side as religion or science. I will admit what you wrote is hard to read or understand, so you may wonder how I can judge it good or judge it bad. But I do see that it is claims upon claims upon claims with no math showing it being substantiated. Quoting a book or scholar is not the proof, the math is. The 365-day calendar of both Egyptian and Maya is NOT the seasonal year. And the claim of Maya being close to seasonal is a false claim or lie based soley on the calculation that Maya recognized that 1508 calendar years would be seasonal 1507 years. However, break this down into its units of a half year or 180 days and just as you have 720+720+20 (as leap days 180+180+5) you then also have 744+744+20 (1508 years). There are 180 solar leap days in 744 years. The Egyptians noted 1650 BC (from Flood 2370 BC) and Babylon noted 1626 BC (as 744 after Flood 2370 BC) of which Mayan Flood is 744 before the real Flood. As you can see I present the math to you not an author nor a book nor school because math is God's presentation to you for what is true. This doesnt mean 30 whole days is the moon because you see whole numbers as math and you refuse to see fractional decimal mathematics. Nor does it mean the year is 365 dsays because it is a whole number. God has proven which math is true when that math orbits a satellite, sends to the moon, and to Jupiter and Saturn. You refuse God when you refuse the science of astronomy now proven as correct. The asteroid that hits us is not due to false astronomy or false math, but due to neglect, not observing. Wrong math is a defiance, but neglect means having what is right and just not doing it. Like the bridge that fell in Minniapolis. What you list in your article merely shows how all kinds of false fabrications have been formed and created by all schools throughout 4000 years. It's a sad shame. And wonderful that those calendars did not survive nor take root into our days. The 364-day year is merely an insistance to keep weeks of 7. There is no natural 364-day year. Nor is it the moon as if a fourth orbit every 7 days. It is because of that false science, that religion for God gets cut down as being the lies. God is not lies. The religions are. So seek truth as Jesus said because he said truth would be here before the End. And the truths have all come out gradually since 1914. (This doesn't stop freedom of speech also mulitplying 1000s of more new lies too; but they are still much in the same pattern as original lies because nothing is new, it is just exposed and rediscovered, or discovered what had been and has been all the while.) Now the biggest change comes and we start over.

[Moses]

I see you point.

Here is why I posted what I posted.

You began this tread by stating and I quote:

I have no idea where a year of 364 days comes from.

Well I pointed some historical info to address that statement of yours.

So its a compelling summary of sources using 364 day calendars.
I agree that they may had flaws in their theology or science.

But also possibly had divine revelations by Gods messengers.

[Elijah]

anyone with truth is a divine messenger.
You were a define messnger when you made me realize i should test my calling to Ararat. I do realize that you thought i was running away from God or wanting to run like Jonah when you said you cant run away... but I heard it, I heard God, not you, in your words for myself as saying I cant run from what should take place so therefore go do it. So I then did what the calling was. I spoke to everyone about the asteroid and safety all the way to Yerevan and they all did the same thing, they thought my drive or driven spirit for Ararat was a seeking self salvation of be in the mountains when it happens. Nothing of the sort enters my mind, I have always seen death before Armageddon for me. Its a matter of whether its a death for God's glory or to my shame. Anytime I read anyone's story, I see where they feel God sent messenger to them. I even see your own messenger that you think God directed or guided to you. But as Moses said, the proof is in the result, what comes true, what does not. I will never know whether government or business stopped an existing March 10 virus. Or perhaps some day 100s of years from now someone will say it was them because they read of some kook online who put them onto it. This is why Paul says treat all as if angels, as a messenger of God since you do not know. Yet beleive no angel contrary to what you already know of God.

[Moses]

There are special chosen people who serve god as his spokesmen.
These are the prophets.

Then there are righteous people like Daniel who is not a prophet but a sweet man as God calls him.
To him God set emissaries such as Gabriel to provide answer to his pray.

Christians who are filled with spirit are temple and as written know the mysteries of the Lord.

Then there are also people who are deluded and deceived by deceiving spirits and the devil. These are inhabited by spirit of lie and confusion.

God save us from them

[Elijah]

Not all Christians are temple, there is temple and city which the wall surrounds. The temple is the bride of Christ, the city is the Earth. The world on earth can exist wicked while the temple ascendes to heaven that it may descend and rule earth. But the segment which is city on earth is like Abram as alien residents. And as Canaan who was killed off by divine application of scientific laws, this time it is not to be murder, (as even David had national armies for God to keep its borders, and yet the nations said so you intend to build this temple with the blood of our people) but rather as with Noah the world dies by not beleiving, by laughing, by ignoring, by being incompetent, all the things that Canaan and Sodom were. This leaves the whole earth as the city, and then everyone dead brought to life becomes of that city or dies again in final death as if fire.