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« on: Feb 17, 2009, 05:49 PM »

Please, join me on a discovery by reading info on the internet and postulating and exploration thru information to find truth of our origins. I just posted this brainstorm on Google newsgroups. The link came to me in email from months ago, so I brainstormed it. Enjoy. [We have only 3 weeks to March 10 at which time if I am imprisoned merely for knowing in my heart world trade goes down on that date, I doubt I'll have internet privledges, did John The Baptizer have them?]

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.history.ancient-egypt/msg/ddd5653dd0cf5660?hl=en&

This is a new brain storm session I am having at this moment and I am typing it out while I think it thru. Yes okay I agree not much of a brainstorm without others beside me. But that is not because I am God, or think I am God, or wish I was God. Nor does it mean that I am God in my own mind while I wish you knew God like I do. When Moses said he wish you could see God like he does, he really means it is lonely being at the top of understanding something he whish you would see or understand too. Being up there, is indeed horrid whether you have actual truth or some dillusional bull**** of truth. It is not fair for real intelligence to suffer like this beside real ignoramouses and be judge as one of the nut cases. Hey Einstein gets alot of digs in the world of opinions. My own mother claims him stupid with money because his being so smart up there made him so stupid down in the normal range. Is that true of people? And is this not a rude torture by smaller brains who dare to shred the higher intelligence in existence (even God himself) because these people have too much arrogant pride to have feelings of appearing stupid. Yes like Abram while I dwelt passing time with my own nephews or siblings children babysitting I now prefer I have had my own children, boys who become men I could teach, if not for trash women (Hagar) who are their mother. I resent having no children, and I resent the women in my life who would have been mother to them if not so busy stopping up the pregnancy process. I find the world evil in the hearts of men and women.

Now for the brainstorm I have to have all by myself between me and God (set aside my bitterness.) Brief you in first, here goes. Egyptian calendar created in Memphis not in 2770 BC on the date Toth 1 (Julian July 17) but created awaiting 70-days of absent Sothis at Memphis watching May 8 until July 17 where upon on the absent new moon of July 12 the first set of five epagum days are created in 2030 BC and the calendar new year inaugurated as Pamenot 1 with Koyak suicide in city Ur being the famed christmas memorial of the 10th month in May 2029 BC.

The 11th dynasty new year of Toth is not a calendar new year Toth, but is recognition that winter starts in that Toth month, a mere reference to seasonal winter solstice in Toth which began in 2000 BC when Jan 6 had completed 4 years of a new year Toth and would thus be in Toth for the next 120 years of 30 leap days.  Egyptian Thoth is Mayan Phoph and it was moved by 16-17 days meaning Phoph 1 occurs 16 days before Thoth 1 and then Phoph 0 was created which makes a 17-day difference. (Calendar change in 1314 BC.) The 16 days can be leap days of 64 years which is a repeat of lunar dates for Venus (warning 64 years is not a constant repeating cycle, even though evidence exists that ancient scholars presumed so). The Maya are more Chinese from the west than they are Egyptian from the east. Their Chinese correlation in words is stronger in cultural similarities. Pictures are like Egyptian heiroglyphs but they retain the fact that each one is a word not alphabetic letters which is still a Chinese concept to this day.

The calendar of Egypt as 2030 BC July 17, becomes Chinese in leap year 2029 BC on July 16 in which the 60-day cycle of Noah's date 27th of odd months is KiahTse (JiaZi). The date 9-27 being the first rise of Venus in a 365-day calendar on July 19 of 2029 BC being 74 days after the silence of mass suicide the morn of May 6 (Koyak 25 claiming they are the christ ascending to heaven). It is the Greeks who falsely said that Koyak 25 was Noah's star in 2958 BC because it equals Dec 25. This confuses THREE DATES as christmas: FIRST- Noah's day 40 of Flood (2369 BC Jan 6 on Noah's 3-27-600 age 600) with SECOND - the suicide of Nahor Alumdug (age 148) with Haran Meskalumdug (age 49) completed the silent morn of Koyak 25 (2029 BC May 6) one year after Peleg Mesanipada died of natural age (age 239) and THIRD - the morn of Noah's death (at natural age 950) in 2021 BC Dec 25 (Mayan Pop 1).

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2029 BC Toth 1= Jan 13
leap years 2029 /2025 /2021
2021 BC Phoph 0 = Dec 24  eve Noah dies
2021 BC Phoph 1 = Dec 25  morn in heaven
2020 BC Toth 1 = Jan 10

1314 BC Phoph 0 = July 1
1314 BC Phoph 1 = July 2
1314 BC Thoth 1 = July 18

Moment of truth -Confusion in calendars does include Noah's actual age being 949 not 950, proven by Ptah (Mars) of 2020 BC being confused with 949-year Mars after the Flood. This is confirmed by Egyptian year 350 for the Pharaoh being July 14 of 2020 BC. It can't be year 950 unless Egypt is 350, which isnt year 955 in the 360-day calendar until Sep 4. So if he is 954 and not yet 955 in 360 days, he is also 949 and not yet 950 in 350 years of 365 days. Further, wow the Maya made him 950 by putting their new year Pop 0 on the date of his death because original 7th month Toth is 17 days after Noah died.

Okay the spred of human culture from Ur to India (Indus River) to China to Copan. India has two dates. It has 1900 BC which it honors as year 1200 of sothic Venus in 700 BC. Caution here Sothis is 1200 Julian but 1200 Egyptian years are 1199 Julian. So the Sothic Venus is one year less than honoring 4-year Sothis. Next they think Babylon's Venus texts from 1625 BC (Adams year 2400 from 4025 BC) is 1900 BC (Adams year 3600 from 5500 BC). This tells you that Ibbi-Sin died in 1900 BC having been made an Elder (king) at age 30 in 2029 BC when Ur I fell, then at 42 making his servant Ishbi-Erra as king of Isan in 2017 BC, becoming sole king in 1925 BC and dies at Ur's destruction in 1900 BC where people flee to the Indus River to become the first Hindu. It also tells you that Amizaduga died in 1625 BC in Babylon and more relatives fled Babylon because they didnt like the next and final king of Babylon. And it is these who brought the Venus dates to India in 1625 BC that are mistaken as 1900 BC. Now please understand this is just my refresher course while I venture into the things on the edge of my brain for you (BUT mainly it is all for me, if I judge you as inappreciative of this brainstorming moment I am having). You cant begin to appreciate how I see Osama Bin Laden succeeding in World Trade Internet collapse of the world dollar on March 10).

Now China begins in 1437 BC. This is indicated by the fact their epoch of 2637 BC Feb 2 is based on 1200 years before 1437 BC Feb 2 both being dated as 11-27 in the 360-day calendar. It is 600 years from 2029 BC Sep 17 to 1437 BC Feb 2 on 11-27 because Venus rises in Aquarius and the 9-27 date of July 19 in 2029 BC must be rejected as before the rise of Venus on Dec 4 in 1438 BC. The error is due to 600 years as 360 days being used for what is a 592-year Venus with correctly 8 more years to go to 1429 BC in Egyptian date (Pamenot 4 in 2029 BC staying as Persian Zoroaster Pamenot 4 known as Tir 4, but after global disaster by stationary orbit comet in 1514 BC the Egyptian Pamenot 4 becomes Pamenot 9 starting in 1513 BC). No matter, the date falls as Feb 22 in 1437 BC and Feb 20 in 1429 BC, and a 30-day correction to Venus position (2 days per 40 years) places the matching Venus 2029 BC July 19 as 1429 BC Jan 21 as opposite 180 days in sky and in leap days. (Derived from the span 2369 BC Jan 6 to 1770 BC July 10; where in 2000 BC Jan 6 and July 10 are both solstices and in 1770 BC this is the Tamuz cross of Mars at Narmer (Nimrod)'s death at age 500 as last of the human gods of longevity (in Adams year 2256 which numeric year is confused as Flood year 2256) where the firebird Phoenix of of Leo (Ash) is called the Venus by Romans and as the Quetzalbird (Quetzalcoatl) by Aztec, and as year 3114 BC Flood by Mayan to count 3744 years to king of kings Pacal as failed year 6000 in 630 AD. Note 8-year difference from Moslem Flood 3122 BC and Prophet 622 AD where Mohammed is the claimed rising morningstar instead of Pacal or Jesus. So with 1437 BC as China, what city yet I do not know. But since Copan astronomically fits the Sothic July 1 rise between Volcan Cosguina up river north to Copan. It shouldnt be too hard to head north up the Indus River.

A previous post of mine was commented some where online regarding a city of China. Hmm I freaked out since I forgot I posted comment. It was a brainstorm moment like now never having heard of the city before. (Okay Google as 1370 BC China to find me.)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.history.ancient-egypt/browse_thread/thread/ed2b55bbdd6abb60

The city is Xia. Now Google as Xia China location. Answer: Latitude: 31° 1' 60 N, Longitude: 110° 10' 0 E

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS307US204&q=xia+china+location

There should now be astronomic evidence for the year founded. I have faith I will find it, or if I die or dont find it, YOU CAN FIND IT because it just takes faith and belief and you do find truth. I dont recall how I got 1370 BC, maybe it was a published carbon-14 date since carbon 14 is correct for dates after 2030 BC (curving up to 20,000 years for 2370 BC). Oh wow, the city Xia is quite a ways from the Indus River for 67 years time (1437-1370 BC). If carbon 14 of Xia said 1370 BC then I noted this was 1000 years passing after the Flood and I am very accute to catching memorial celebrations around the world matching Bible Genesis. Based on 144 years from 2256-2400 AM as 1770-1626 BC Babylon.....

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/history/xia/

1 Xiayu Also called Dayu; Family name: Si; Given name: Wenming; The great-great-grandson of Huangdi. Known for solving the flood problem for the people.  45y  (?1770-1725) [?foundation of Xia]
INTERESTING MENTION OF NOAH'S FLOOD FOR YEAR 1770 BC which is Adams year 2256
(correctly a calendar of Venus measuring 600 years after the flood as drifting 180 days from Jan back to July).
2 Qi son of Xiayu; He broke up the Abdication System and set the Hereditary System. 29y (?1725-1696)
3 Taikang son of Qi 29y (?1696-1667)
4 Zhongkang younger brother of Taikang 13y (?1667-1654)
5 Xiang son of Zhongkang 28y   subtotal 144 (?1654-1626)
6 Shaokang posthumous child of Xiang  21y  (?1626-1605) [?foundation of Xia]
7 Zhu son of Shaokang 17y (?1605-1588)
8 Huai  son of Zhu 44y  (?1588-1544)
9 Mang son of Huai 18y = subtotal 244  (?1544-1526)
10 Xie son of Mang 21y  (?1526-1505)
11 Bujiang son of Xie 59y  (?1505-1446)
12 Jiong younger brother of Bujiang 21y (?1446-1425) [1437 BC calendar]
13 Jin son of Jiong 21y  (?1425-1404)
14 Kongjia son of Bujiang 31y (?1404-1374)
15 Gao  son of Kongjia 11y (?1374-1363) 60 years to Copan 1314 BC
                                          [1370 BC Xia honors 1000 years]
16 Fa son of Gao 11y  (?1363-1352)
17 Jie son of Fa; the tyrannical emperor that ended the Xia Dynasty 52y (1352-1300 BC)
= total 470th year

Could this be 470 years of 1770-1300 BC? The subtotal of 144 could be Amizaduga's death in 1626 BC.
And the year 1300 BC is the 600-year half point between Hindu 1900 BC of Ur and their 700 BC. The death of the Arpaxad's Chaldean son Shelah at age 433 occurs in 1900 BC in year 470 after the Flood. Thus with 1770 BC being 130 years after 1900 BC (year 470-year 600), it follows that 1300 BC is 130 years after 1430 BC. So twice 470 is 2370 BC Flood to 1900 BC fall of 3rd dynasty Ur (The City), then 470 again to 1430 BC.
But there are those who fled Hamurabi in 1770 BC because he made himself King of Kings over the world when 500-year old Nimrod with that title died in Abydos Egypt as Narmer Mena. Thus 470 years from 1770 BC to 1300 BC as fall of The City China Xia in 1300 BC is easily confused in this way. The 1770 BC as Adams year 2256 is a known comfusion to all scholars as the Flood (2256 AM), so that the real year 470 after Flood is fall of Chaldea as Ur in 1900 BC. But count 470 after 1770 BC and you get 1300 BC as the fall of China Xia. This is logical. Since the Idus River was founded in 1900 BC, was Xia then founded in 1770 BC or was it founded 400 years later in 1370 BC. The Maya reached Volcan Cosiguina in 1314 BC (Copan in 1313 BC) so is this 56 years to get from Xia to Copan or is it 456 years to get there? depending whether Xia was founded in 1770 BC or in 1370 BC. But when was Xia reached by Hindu spred to China? Was it a stay on the Indu River from 1900-1770 BC (130 years) until arriving in China in 1770 BC as king Xiayu? or was it a stay on the Indu River from 1900-1625 BC (275 years) while new ones from Babylon arrived in 1625 BC to join the Indu River for some, but moving on to China as king Shaokang?
Perhaps as the Indus were two arrivals (1770 and 1625 BC), so was China the same two years. Or perhaps 1625 BC was their first arrival. It is not likely a middle of a reign such as 1625-1370 BC staying on the Indu River  (for 255 years) to king Gao taking them to China, because an elder or king became ruler by taking the lead in a migration or escape or exodus or pioneering advance? what is clear is that places were founded where they could set up first an astral means of checking time and accounting for it, though we look at it as worship of gods.

Further study could be made on whether this 52 year reign in 1352-1300 BC connects to Mayan expectation of a 52-year king when they landed at Volcan Cosiguina (1314-1262 BC; founded Copan in 1313 BC). However, so far the article I am looking at places this as 21st to 16th (mid 2050-mid 1550 BC). But time and care and concern and study reveals while critics continue their corruption of truth in their atitudes... and if the internet has proven that freedom spreds yeast faster than it spreds love or truth! But let's hear it for freedom, not in the sence of do what you want without law, but to be free to find truth.

Time from Xia to Copan is now pondered. king Jie 1352-1314= 38 years, 1370-1314 BC = 56 years this being lunar dates of Venus as are 64 years (caution not a constant recurring cycle). 1370 BC could be the year Maya left the city Xia because it become Mayan year 1744 from their Flood 3114 BC. This year would be regarded as year 4000 from Adam being seen as Babylon's year 3600 as 5370-1770 BC plus 400 years, thus creating their 2256 years 5370-3114 BC plus 1744. Noah was 600 before Flood, and Babylon was year 1344 of Noah. The real true 600 is 2970-2370 BC; and his year 1344 is correctly 600 before and 744 after, being 2370-1626 BC. This is misinterpreted as a full 1344 after the Flood as 3114-1770 BC making the year 1626 BC as twice the 744 years (3114-2370-1626 BC). Thus the celebration of 1370 BC as 1000 years from the real true Flood at China Xia seems to be a joyful pioneering journey to Copan by Mayans. This 56 years 1370-1314 BC is only 14 leap days and the Maya shift in Thoth 1 to Phoph 1 is 16 days of 64 years. It is of interest that 15 leap days is a Chinese 60-year cycle from 1374-1314 BC which could mean king Gao was a bad king to escape from leading to migration that eventually settled Copan.

I wonder the route to get there. Anyone know the best natural route never traveled before until these people? Okay, My guess, north up the Indus, over to Kathmandu Nepal, to Bhutan, to the north border valley of Burma, to - - -

http://www.traveljournals.net/explore/china/map/m2673035/san_xia.html

 I get lost here, how do you travel east across these north-south ridges. Or do we have a place in Burma older than Xia China as a point of dwelling before Xia foundation.



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