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« on: Mar 03, 2009, 08:23 PM »

You won't have me the next 30 days should things GO DOWN as they say or put it. So I am putting some things on that I am pondering. This is for those who think that when God does not Flood the whole planet from rain again, it means no more flooding or earthquake tsunamis or continents going under. It represents 11,000 foot deep ocean we have and the 11,000 feet of mount Ararat that is above a pretty general 6000 foot plateau we have in every continent.
I also have an action GIF, not sure it could post, it shows the ocean stays at the same level, and its the ocean floor that throws up, while the land collapses for a year.


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« Reply #1 on: Mar 04, 2009, 05:56 AM »

One of these diagrams is from Angelo Palego in Italy whose site keeps popping around; I got email once from someone who does his site and is not Jehovah's witness. I suspect Angelo as been threatened as apostate if he steps too far in his topic. His asistant in an email back to me almost 2 years ago said he was waiting for Elijah. That is when I looked up the date Malchi was written and found my source to say the 32nd year of Artaxerxes, Year 94 of new Jerusalem. His asistant said all of teh world's calendars from Noah's children are pagan and so I was shunned I guess.
Here is a so-so animation sequence by me
illustrates lower continents before
asteroid impact of 2370 BC Julian Nov 20
in Yucatan Mexico in which mantle meltdown under ocean floors spred under all continents in 7 days, mean while 7 days of water canopy collapsing reached Noah on Nov 27
who had the ark packed and sealed by then.

This event can only drop 6000-11,000 feet and so the
mountain tops cannot be covered again with water,
there is no need for an ark for the same to happen again.
I am sure if and when this happens there are those who dont interpret scriptural science fact correctly and would say God is a liar by having a flood. This analogy is with Mount Ararat. It is true Ararat is a volcano and could or probabaly formed during the Flood, forming under water; but the record stating that the ark which lifted in 15 cubits of water (22 ft) settled and grounded with 15 cubits over Ararat which means its peak could not have been active anymore under the ark. If this plain had no mountain before the Flood, then it would had to have grown 11,000 feet in less than 157 days from time of asteroid impact to ark grounded on its peak. This is more biblically sound than Angelo Palego who thinks the ark grounded after 110 days of draining water. But the water never truly drained, the land pushed upward. So the water does not have some gravitational draining speed. The rate can only be determined for the 74 days that followed grounding on the peak until Little Ararat was exposed. You cannot determine a rate for the 110 days as if at 40 days completed maximum height of water and at that point it was 22 feet over Ararat. The scripture is clear that despite Noah's presuming water drains when the rain stops, that the ark floated the whole 150 days in 15 cubits (22 feet) no matter how shallow or how deep these days were during the rain and after the rain when it was clear sky and ocean. Thus the rate Angelo Palego comes up with, presumes 184 days of draining (110+74) to expose Little Ararat. That isnt proof of where the ark is. It is like saying Zedekiah wont see Babylon or its king (and then your words come true becaus ethey blind him) when your true intent was to say you believe he would be killed. Yes I believe Angelo found the ark, but I also believe he toots a trumpet of insufficient follow-up. Using 22 feet over Ararat and 100 feet below the peak of Little Ararat as enough exposure to see it, he takes 183 days (150 minus 40 is 110 until grounding and 73 more days to expose Little Ararat is 183 days despite Genesis dates it as 5-17 to 10-01 which is 74 days not 73). He takes that height and divides it by the 184 days and thus assumes the ark grounded at the elevation 110 days below Big Ararat peak, and 74 days above little Ararat peak. He then adds to Genesis and says that the window wasnt facing Big Ararat and so it couldnt be seen when grounding on the side of Big Ararat. To the contrary Genesis says it was grounded as 22 feet over the mountain... no mountain was out of the water yet when it grounded hung up bottom on the peak. Eventually it slid down during the ocean waves. But the scripture says mountains were seen which either means the plural word is used as in the big supreme mountain became seen (sliding down that day), or it means now two mountains.
The fact remains if you ever did something like I did at 17 and went up Pikes Peak on a rail or into the tourist building, that particular case leaves you looking out where you cant see under you. awesome. In an ark so big would be the same. Being on a single island is not the rejoicing of the date 10-01-600 but rather the fact that other land was returning upward. Thus the distance from big peak to lower peak is not 184 days but only 74 days, and the fact that Angelo Palego's math got him an elevation he found it at is coincidence. Other sites are also proclaiming it did not ground where Angelo has found it because evidence inticates a trail of debris down to where he has found it. Then again, what he claims to have found as a mere piece, he may say is below his elevation groudning location. The fact remains the ark grounded with 22 feet of water over Ararat, it says so. And it says that the 22 feet of water (15 cubits) had been saturating the outside of the  ark for the whole 150 days. That means 22 feet over the ground even when the ark was down in the city Surupak 100 feet above sea level. Is science that hard that you have to embellish more than it says?


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« Reply #2 on: Mar 04, 2009, 07:22 AM »

wooden beam of Noah's ark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dQ6nRPA6jU

http://www.noahsark.it/home_inglese.htm

This is Angelo Palego's site which changes URL location and web masters constantly, not sure if the abuse is from the world or from The WatchTower or his local italian kingdom hall. Hey just call it Michael Jackson syndrome they get their nose between your cheeks and say they do it for the seedlings they dont wish to stumble. Kill the sheep to save the lambs who are just put in by Satan to do this process of weeding anyways, when Jesus says leave them alone lest you kill what belongs to him.

 The diagram is poorly illustrated in that it puts arrows of 40 days of water up above the 110 days of draining it. And the chart presumes 110 days is all that of draining rain instead of truly being merely submerged continents under a sea level that hasnt changed at all, not more than the 10-40 feet of water canopy added to it (proven by Jehovah's laws of air pressure by such a canopy, and his laws of gravitational weight, as well as Jehovah's thermal laws of heat retaining). Trust in Jehovah and you get your scientific proven answers. Science isnt the enemy, the scolastic priesthood controlling it for money is. He not only shows an ark on the side fo Ararat in this diagram here of his, he also has somewhere on his site a little animation picture of this ark floating up to Ararat island swearing that Noah cant see this island out his one window facing the wrong way. This is not accepting Jehovah as he is... granted I have embellished and each time that voice of Jehovah says inside me now wait are you trying to see more than truly is the reality. And yep, I am wrong again... but I dont call it corrected by myself, I call it corrected by Jehovah. And that is why I argue with you people because from your thoughts I find that what is Jehovah comes out as NOT just what me or I think. Jehovah is collective in many ways... and that is why when it says Jehovah said where is your brother Abel, it means Adam was asking, and Eve was asking, and his sisters and other brothers were asking and Cain was getting really really angry because he had already killed him.


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« Reply #3 on: Mar 04, 2009, 03:14 PM »

chart Noahs asteroid impact 2370 BC Nov 20 carbon 14 dating as 20,000 contrasted to impact now on April 9 and what to expect in how long this is gonna take to live thru it.


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« Reply #4 on: Mar 23, 2009, 12:36 AM »

Many get their dates wrong because they ignore a passage of one important planet.
The zodiacs shift in their calculations.

President Ronald Regen's  astrologer was very accurate in her calculations.
She and some other known astrologers take in to the count the planned of the crossing.

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« Reply #5 on: Mar 23, 2009, 03:28 AM »

The problem is in their math not in accounting. I made a reservation for two nights in Yerevan on a Saturday morn and on Monday morn they didn't get it even though I had an online confirmation from orbitz for $4 that these 2 nights were for $81. So they offered me $66 a night but did so by translating Drams to Dollars and dividing by 5 nights. THe calulator was set to round up and set to float to whole dollars. Well the calculator does not round up first and then cut off the cents or the 8 decimal positions; it cuts off all the decimal fractions first in which case it has nothing to round up unless. Thus it showed up as $66 instead of $69 per night. And that had been cut and rounded so that instead of a $15 difference of 5 nights $3, it was a $17 difference. It matters when you dont have the money.
Same with stars. Earth's orbit is sidereal, and the axis shifts or precesses making the tropical seasonal gid of the year less than orbit. In calculation the astronomers do not figure out sidereal and then shift or precess to seasonal (the reality occurring); they do the opposite, they calculate seasonal accumulation into the past, and then they move the grid so the stars are in the correct place of the tropical grid. What this does is accumulate error which it doesnt if you do it the correct reverse way. No matter how many people you write to they are stubborn know it alls. Yet about 1995, I showed an astronomer (1 of 5) at the Chicago Planetarium the error of their program Carina Voyager, and why bother correcting the program or its maker; they dumped it and bought a different program. Correcting the error of others doesnt mean you are claiming your width of knowledge concering the topic is greater than theirs. It just means you see what they dont.
For example if you calculate the sidereal grid, it is fixed, it only precesses with the center of the galaxy. Then move the grid as the tropical axis moves and you get seasonal grid too. In other words for best system, the sidereal grid of longitude and latitude should not move, and the seasonal one does. This means 90 degrees longitude should stay fixed to Leo Regulus and with the 6 hour RA of 2270 BC and only the 6 hour RA should precess backward; the 90 degree longitude should not move with it. That would be precision and that would uncover and reveal things we never knew before. But instead, by calculating a current constant of both sidereal grid and seasonal grid locked to each other, it in essence is precessing forward each year a sidereal orbit which does not precess, only to then unprecess it back into time. The error easily proven just like the hotel calculator where the young girl said our calculator is not wrong. Too blind to see the design of the calculator. They merely see button options and state the answer what ever it is, is the correct answer. Even when you can show that doing the same math gives different answers. Simple analogy here...
(just analogy because the error isnt going to show unless you use larger numbers), we know that 6+3= 9 so that 9-3=6 and 9-6=3, but something is wrong if the rounded figures and cuts state 6+3=9 but then say 9-6=4 and 9-3=5.
And that is what astronomers do too. It goes beyond crashing our million dollar tax satellites into Mars because Britian used meters and we used feet.
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