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« on: Mar 29, 2009, 10:33 AM »

A study of the vapor canopy that I am reading is implying that only 10cm of water could exist for ideal existence of the canopy. (Divided by 40 days this is only a quarter inch of rain per day. I don't think so.) It then discusses how the outer water vapor would crystallize into ice that reflects 75% of solar constant energy while an ideal 25% of solar constant heats the atmosphere below it, hot enough to keep polar air from raining as a liquid and cool enough not to boil equatorial oceans. It further says how a cycle would continue where ice sinks below the water vapor to re-evaporate and then extend out and freeze again thus maintaining vapor below and ice on top reflecting.

This model seems to use a total complete canopy rather than where heat from the equator moves to the poles and is release at open ended holes in the canopy. It would seem that the rotation of the Earth would allow for much heavier water vapor thickness at the equator than what merely floats suspended on atmosphere over the poles. The fact that heat is released at the poles invalildates amny of the tight restrictions on so many models with closed up poles. The fact that 25% solar constant radiation passes totally thru the vapor thus reduces the C14 formation down to 25% (an C14 history gap of 11,500 years). But we already know by C14 measures that the gap is 20,000 years which is 8.3% of current C14, and longevity proves it is at least 10% (18,000 year illusion). Thus the question posed to you the public is this: Can the method of current C14 formation be filtered from the 25% solar constant reaching the atmosphere for heat down to the 8.3% formation in the atmosphere under the canopy. Can 25% of infrared heat and visible light reach the atmosphere below the vapor canopy but restrain an additional 16.6% of cosmic or gamma or neutrons or whatever is making the C14 out of nitrogen below the water vapor?  Rather than all the critics post the same stuff they always post, how about some real true intellectual people who can answer this question of science.
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 12, 2009, 07:12 PM »

Posted today online by scientists was a rule of thumb
for the edge of atmosphere and space.

http://news.aol.com/article/edge-of-space-found/423161?icid=main

The debate =
76 miles  = NASA quits using thrusters to re-enter
73 miles  = space density   -University of Calgary
62 miles  = flight speed fails due to thin air -FAI
50 miles  (for astronaut to claim he was in space)

Quotes on the thermosphere area where temperatures
separate gases according to weight and density are:

Jul 28, 2008 ... The thermosphere is directly above the mesosphere and below the exosphere. It extends from about 90 km (56 miles) to between 500 and 1000 km ...
www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/Atmosphere/thermosphere.html

The base of the thermosphere (the mesopause) is at an altitude of about 80 km (50 miles), whereas its top (the thermopause) is at about 450 km. ...
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/591759/thermosphere

May 7, 1997 ... Vertical structure of the atmosphere » Thermosphere ... top of the thermosphere, occurs at heights of around 250 km (150 miles) during quiet ...
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/41364/atmosphere/261449/Thermosphere

The “bottom” of the thermosphere is about 55 miles above the ground, and it doesn’t really have a well-defined “top”, but it certainly extends to at least ...
weatherbreak2.creighton.edu/?p=1695

Dec 22, 2006 ... Recent observations by scientists tracking satellite orbits have shown that the thermosphere, which begins about 60 miles above Earth and ...
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x76084

average density of the thermosphere has decreased by about 10% during the past 35 years, ... to 497 miles). For comparison, the Space Shuttle typi- ...
www.nrl.navy.mil/Review05/images/05Space(Picone).pdf

Aug 30, 2007 ... The thermosphere begins at the mesopause (the upper boundary of the mesosphere) at an average altitude of about 50 miles (80 kilometers). ...
reference.howstuffworks.com/thermosphere-encyclopedia.htm

WAS THE VAPOR CANOPY A CEILING where 40 feet of fresh water (a half inch of rain per hour for 40 days) would freeze as ice in space with almost no weight of any air pressure upon it (this ice reflecting 75% solar constant) and then as a solid sink or decend a mere 40 feet (12 meters) below a weight and density of 14.5 pounds psi of water vapor where it re-evaporated into vapor and rose to freeze again?
A 40-foot fresh water vapor canopy (not salt water weight and density) would compress the current atmosphere to
14.5 pounds psi on top of the atmopshere so that one might actually call it a ceiling since current sea level pressure would exist at the atmospheric top, under an additional 14.5 pounds psi of water), which would have absolute no pressure above it; water vapor rises above this ice, but does so only to freeze and sink, thus no height is gained or spred into space, and the sea level pressure for the world of Adam's family until Noah would be a double 29 pounds psi. Angels on Earth themselves saw a process that they felt could not fail nor come down; or that God wouldn't dare destroy all this he had created, convinced their ability to procreated as humans must be God intended or wanted or desired by God. They were wrong, Noah was right; again the majority are wrong. My desperation in guessing or calculating this doesn't mean my path is wrong. None of us have to prove, because God will prove... it is what YHWH or Jehovah means. You just have to be ready to take action when he does.

Obviously this air would have to compress to a lower altitude unless we presume or KNOW or calculate that the air we had was lost into space. Perhaps a canopy holds our air in so that if we put a canopy onto the current atmosphere, then the cycle of oxygen and carbon and nitrogen would build and accumulate to raise the water canopy back up higher to past various preFlood altitudes.
ELIJAH

IF WE FOUND THE ARK would they claim the pictures are fake, the discoverer a fake, the video fake, the beliefs of its discover as irrelevent etc. Jesus did say that the dead could be brought back to life and such people wouldn't believe... yep they wouldn't even believe what resurrected ones would say or tell them. Nope Columbus we know why you came to America and we know what the queen said to you, youre all wrong Columbus dont change what we know.
Jesus also said We have doctors who are Hypocrites to the  Hypocratic oath and so you will also say this of me no doubt Physician Heal Thyself. Here Jesus did not create this phrase, it existed, and he knew they felt that way of him too, as with others. Yes, I am aware of those i feel are charlatans and I am aware where I look like one too. I am like Jesus said... attempting to be all about TRUTH.

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