Melchizedek – king of Sodom! The sinful town is found

[Loginov]

Sodom is found!

In my opinion, the ruler of the town of Sodom was none other than legendary king Melchizedek. The name of Salem, generally accepted now as his native town, appeared in the text of the Bible as a result of conscious distortion of the true toponym in order to conceal the connection between the righteous king and the odious town, known as a symbol of total Fall.
In accordance with my version, this follows from the analysis of the text of Gen. 14:16-23, what would be convincing for any attentive reader. I assert that historical Sodom would be discovered in the area of legendary Salem, near Jordan River (see Gen. 13:10), exactly where the ruin marked now as Tel-Shalem is located.   
Alex Loginov
http://sodomdiscovery.site40.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=38

[pkoutoupis]

A note:
There has even been some scholars who believe that literary evidence has been found for the existence of Sodom outside of Biblical literature. Written into the archives of the Ebla texts there is a reference to a sa-du-ma, as confirmed by Paolo Matthiae on Giovanni Pettinato's controversial translations. Although it must be warned that one must be careful when approaching Pettinato's translations. There is a bad history surrounding them; one that can actually be read about in the BAS archives.

[eliyahu hanavi]

Meaning no disrespect, but the article was not representative of very thorough and valid research. The evidence presented was flimsy at best. A great deal of Biblical and historical information was left out and not even addressed. Further, there are volumes of scientific research on this matter and the idea that a little Hebrew word-play (which is easy to accomplish just as in any language) will overwrite all of the other evidence against Salem being equated with Salim and Sodom as opposed to Jerusalem is absurd. Cheers!

[pkoutoupis]

>>Sodom is found!

Recent archaeology has offered a suggested location of Bab edh-Dhra to be the biblical site of Sodom and Numeria to be the site of the biblical Gomorrah. Obviously this is still speculation and only a theory as it is very difficult when the majority and yet still limited evidence available to us comes from the Book of Genesis. Genesis gives us a rough idea of the general region where the narratives place its location but that is about it.

I must admit that I am also a firm believer of the Documentary Hypothesis and when you look at the Unknown source who wrote Genesis 14 and the Yahwist's portion of the destruction of the sites it becomes increasingly difficult to tackle the issue. For example I had written and published a paper 2 years ago on A Critical Anaylsis of Genesis 14, where I date the authorship of this chapter to the post-Exilic period during the Persian Empire and also find similarities between this author and the Chronicler of the Books of Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah.

If such a late date of compilation can be proven, then what would have been the author's motivation for writing it? Was the scribe collecting Abrahamic traditions floating around Yehud and felt it necessary to place them into the Torah?

I am not saying that a Sodom did not exist, as there could be a possibility that it did and it was still referred to as Sodom (reference my previous post). I agree with eliyahu hanavi that I also fail to see the association between Salem/Salim/Sodom. Especially when through the evolution of the Canaanite-Hebrew alphabet the dhalet and lamed have never shared in similarities of style and structure. To claim that there was a slight corruption within the same text is extremely difficult to be proven.

[notalent]

>>Sodom is found!

Recent archaeology has offered a suggested location of Bab edh-Dhra to be the biblical site of Sodom and Numeria to be the site of the biblical Gomorrah. Obviously this is still speculation and only a theory as it is very difficult when the majority and yet still limited evidence available to us comes from the Book of Genesis. Genesis gives us a rough idea of the general region where the narratives place its location but that is about it.

If you haven't already, you might find this thread of some interest, particularly the contributions of Dr. Steven Collins.

http://forum.bib-arch.org/digssites/current-excavations-at-the-tall-el-hammam-excavation-project/

[Susan Burns]

I read somewhere (can't remember right now) the Melchizedek story was a later insertion to legitimize the Hasmonean priesthood.

[Moses]

If this was a later insertion then why call the city Salem and not call it Jerusalem?

I don't think it was later insertion and the fact the Malchizedek was the priest of " EL ELION" the most high God is not to be ignored.

As the most High God most likely will not have his temple or altar in a city such as Sodom.

Also when Lot was saved , If Makizedek was in Sodom he would have been saved.
There only Lot and his offspring that are saved from the distraction.

[Moses]

 
As to Hasmonai priesthood they claimed their priesthood as Aaronic.

[Susan Burns]

If this was a later insertion then why call the city Salem and not call it Jerusalem?

This is a very good point. I will try to find where I first read this. I do remember being very convinced with the scholar's argument as to the later insertion of Melchizedek. Hopefully, this post will appear in the correct location as I have not figured out exactly how to post.

[Susan Burns]

As to Hasmonai priesthood they claimed their priesthood as Aaronic.

The Aaronic priesthood was hereditary. John Hycranus ascended to the priesthood through Maccabees defending Judahite kingdom.

[Susan Burns]

If this was a later insertion then why call the city Salem and not call it Jerusalem?

I don't think it was later insertion and the fact the Malchizedek was the priest of " EL ELION" the most high God is not to be ignored.

This can be found in a commentary in the Jewish Publication Society Tanakh.

[Susan Burns]

If this was a later insertion then why call the city Salem and not call it Jerusalem?

I don't think it was later insertion and the fact the Malchizedek was the priest of " EL ELION" the most high God is not to be ignored.

Maybe the insertion of this story occurred when The Babylonian Jews were reconciling with the sabras upon their return? I agree that Melchezedek was the priest/king of ancient Jerusalem. The Melechs of El Elyon were the priest/kings of god most high Shalim. These priest/kings were anointed by God, not by hereditary. When Jesus said he was a priest/king Melchezedek he was saying he had more legitimatcy  than the Herodian or Hasmonean.  A melchezedek was a rightous Molek. A Molek priest/king  required blood sacrifice of first born. Their kipper was a furnace and the mercy seat delivered a child into the mouth of Ba'al. But a rightous Molek was a Melechzedek for Shalim, the God of Peace.

[Elijah]

At Peleg's death the king Gilgamesh  of Erech went to Ararat to ask Noah why we cannot live as old as he is at 940. In arriving, Noah was not there, his wife had died, he had moved. The vine yard was tended by his daughter. Thus if Chaldeans from Ur came to Hitites in Ararat and wanted to be led by Shem Melchizedek there is a reason he chose the Sothic latitude of of Ur to build Salem. SODOM is too far south to match that latitude that is Babel to Ur.

That July 19 latitude is special because it matches 85 leap days of 340 years in a 360-day calendar versus those who went to July 17 Memphis (2 degrees 138 miles) further south. The 85 leap days of 340 years is Oct 10 for Memphis but Oct 12 for Salem.

So when it comes to SODOM they pretty much deteriated as our current world is... you have no idea how many married men I know go online to mess with men. It is skyrocketing. Where they get this spirit or desire to do this I don't know. But it made me assess the time it took for Sodom and we find that when AmarPal came to Canaan in 1936 BC trying to steal back all the population that left with Abram in 1943 BC at Shulgi's death, that after Abram won the battle of 1936 BC it took 17 years before complaint was found against Sodom so that Shem and his two sons (messengers /angels) went to Abram with prediction that Sodom showed signs of exploding in 1919 BC (I find flaming Sothic myth of world's end at Sothic cycle as reason to believe the stress of full moonrise on the faultline on the morn of July 18 of 1918 BC).

It would seem to me that Shalom /Salem meaning PEACE is not what inspired the Sodomite men to go to Lots house to go get a Peace, when they said we just wish to get to know you. I get perturbed at those who wish to accuse the Bible as being the language afraid of sex and saying that know you is a biblical term not one of a healthy society. We live in a culture where Christians are accused of disliking the word sex or other words are ways of hiding sex. BUT I have watched the hookup game online, and fornicators do not say sex; yes they do say I just want fun, I just want to know you, I wasn't hooking up I just wish to get to know you, etc. Getting sex is a game on the internet. And so I feel it is a disgrace to even affiliate Sodom as being Salem, and Melchizedek as its righteous king.

If my prediction comes true, that we have an Armageddon and all dead are raised up afterward, then if you are granted mercy back to life, I want you to go to Shem Melchizedek and ask him if he was this king of Sodom you think he was. I wanna see the look on his face. I bet he will still have the ability to spit.

[Elijah]

I never calculated what 1918 BC July 18 would be so here goes:

Noahs 5-08-1058
Egyptian Middle Kingdom 1-30-452
(MK.Pamenot 30  = Zoroastrian  Tir 30)
now calculates as New Kingdom Parmuti 5

This is interesting because its as if warning
that leap day is a must and the Sothic star
must not leave the 1st month of the cycle ends
with destruction.

Now if this seems far fetched to you. Comparable example
is Lots daughters having sons Moab and Ammon where upon descendents of Moab decide that Molech (Molta or Vulcan) must be sacrificed baby children to prevent the explosion again. Or how about my own JW mom's acceptance of colloidal silver cassette tapes of CDs saying that the silver kills only bad bacteria and not the good bacteria.  Hmm I told Dad, hey I looked up on the internet and it said you should eat yogurt after colloidal silver for all the stomach bacteria it has destroyed. (And here my dad went total paralysis for a year with Guian Beret.)