Biblical Women

[turanclancath]

The Real Jezebel

A very interesting book revieuw about Queen Jezebel .

see also


JEZEBEL:BIBLE WOMAN,PAINTED WOMAN:GOD,ELIJAH AND A DROUGHT:QUEEN JEZEBEL KILLS NABOTH


and

JEZEBEL:BIBLE PEOPLE:ELIJAH,GOD,AHAB,JEHU,NABOTH,NABOTH'S VINEYARD,PRIESTS OF BAAL,PRINCESS,OMRI


and ofcourse BAR march/april2008

BAR 34:06 | Browse by Publication

Turanclancath

[Sekhmet]

Thank you sir Turanclancath interesting links.

I believe my favorite woman in the Old Testament is Esther.

[Elijah]

I agree. Esther is beautiful in heart. How do you meet such one. I wonder if Xerxes Ahasuerus was an ugly guy. Esther is also much like Ruth willing to marry an old stranger (and become grandmother of Jesus) rather than go back to Moab. Imagine the young relative who didnt want her because she was Moab, too blind to see that she had choice to stay with the Jews or go home and had chosen well.

[Watchman]

Yeah, I am voting for Ruth...(love Esther also though)

Watchman

[notalent]

My vote is for Jael.

[Elijah]

The most beautiful woman inthe world is Ibsha. I got the name from Google egyptian /archeology which said Ibsha (ibsa) is the name of Abram in the 12th dynasty. Though Zecharia Sitchin shows him to be Iburrum against AmarSin who is AmarPal.

But Ibsa is indeed beautiful because I am about to show her she must die to save the world. If I go for 40 days, then like John in prison I will die. But if she dies, then like Jesus is raised for 40 days who showed us that the spirit of dead Noah for 40 days (2021 BC Dec 24 to Feb 2) was Xisuthros not Noah; a false preChrist. So hard for me to look back at my 1984 discovery that the 10 kings before the Flood are 970 years of ruling by angels from heaven and not one person on this planet has accepted that, nor learned it in 24 years. They hold to Xisuthros saying he was Noah at death, and in the Flood; and so they hold to the lie saying Alulim is Adam. Yet what fools since they never list the 10 kings but only 8 kings, despite saying this lie that those 10 kings are the ten from Adam to Noah. It leaves me feeling empty, wish I had kids to teach, yet I prevent that too by seeing most women as defiant of me who tell kids the world of truth is mom's way not dad's way. Am I Adam that I look at myself a loser no matter who I deal with. Is it me? Do I make people feel that I already expect them to not understand me, and its they incapable, or me so above them? gee I sound like Michael Jackson. But I'll tell you... I too have had older brother sibling or others at school or work who said dont pick on Ricky, and I said look I know how to grow up, I dont need you standing up to be my Savior. So I must say, that above even my own mother, or katherine Jackson, I see the glory of the bride of Christ and the holy blood (her own) about to be spilt, though I expect the people to soon do it after I die. I hereby accept my assignment to ussher the bride of christ to the gate though I know there I stop never to enter as she does.
Beautiful is the new city, and all of you will then know why I have done what I am about to do, if I am brave enough to do it. Mount Ararat awaits me.
I may be able to post while in Turkey... we will see.

[notalent]

But Ibsa is indeed beautiful because I am about to show her she must die to save the world.  I see the glory of the bride of Christ and the holy blood (her own) about to be spilt, though I expect the people to soon do it after I die. I hereby accept my assignment to ussher the bride of christ to the gate though I know there I stop never to enter as she does. Beautiful is the new city, and all of you will then know why I have done what I am about to do, if I am brave enough to do it. Mount Ararat awaits me.
I may be able to post while in Turkey... we will see.

Did you make a good-faith payment on the debts you described last time?  It would be wrong to default on them and then skip the country, leaving your creditors high and dry. 

[Elijah]

High and dry? Look, not being at court means they win the judgement. But then there is also the fact the clerk says the judge can call me because the lazy attorneys in milwaukee likewise do not wish to waste time nor money in person driving an hour to my city. I am willing to go further for God in actual real distance than they are to scrape off the top of other's debts. The whole world will not fall financially because of me, but because they are all the same as me. You are expanding on personal business in public merely because I am willing to show I hide no sin. So now do express yourself.... which beautiful woman are you referring to.... the judge?  the chief police? May I say Jezebel was labeled as evil and the good were recorded by name for actions taken while remaining in submission. Humble effectiveness worth more than the power of a woman failing. Helen launched 1000 ships and did those men kill 1 million for the lust of her? Daniel says the world falls from such a woman, and Cleopatra cheating with married Julius isnt the only one. Nor is Herod's woman whose husband was back in Rome and killed John for telling everyone.
If the opportunity to label such a woman comes my way I will indeed take it to enrage her to repeat the fulfilment so they know the end is now here after my end comes.

[notalent]

High and dry? Look, not being at court means they win the judgement. ... I am willing to go further for God in actual real distance than they are to scrape off the top of other's debts. The whole world will not fall financially because of me, but because they are all the same as me....

The whole world is doing just that, falling financially, because people won't pay what they promised, or promise what they cannot pay.  It's called the mortgage default crisis, which is still going on.

A willingness to stiff one's creditors in the name of Jehovah is certainly thoughtful in one way -- it's a clear signal that unrepentant covenant breakers, like those who break their promise to make good-faith payment of debt, are not sent from God to bring His message.

So now do express yourself.... which beautiful woman are you referring to.... the judge?

Jael wasn't a judge, BTW.  People who know the Bible well don't have to ask who she was.

[Elijah]

Then you don't know the Bible at all, nor ever will because no one anywhere ever said Jael was a judge, other than you delusioned that people beleive that.

Further, Jehovah is not about method or being methodist, or the law would have worked, no law has worked whether it be Greek law, Roman law, USA law or the law of Moses that no one ever applied yet got picky enough to accuse Jesus of not applying it either. Actions of what people do are always more event changing than the actions they think others should do.  Where does your words fall, on what you should do, or on what others should? Dont answer, you have already. What I speak like Jesus is truth. Your mortgage game isnt from the low class people like mountain hill folk who get a job 2 weeks to get credit and then quit their job. The problem originated with laying off (and moving away from) older people who had higher wage and benefits and years of service and in trade hiring 18 year olds or college grads to telephone people to get credit cards by phone only, no paper work, first purchase signature and the 18 year old telemarketers get commision on this. Then that fell in 1997 and they all went real estate to refinance homes by including credit cards and again these young people pulled in $6000 closing on each refinance. Dont blame the home owners, the corruption was in the business. The purchase of my house in 2001 did not quiver the real estate man nor bank approver to reappraise the house deliberately $6000 more to get the $6000 closing they wanted above owner price. Though my refiance is now $185,000 on an appraisal $199,000 all done by phone that I seriously question, that original figure of the house was $117,000 asking and reappraqised as $123,000 to get their closing. Likewise, the appraise what ever you please still is going on in the name of not having racial city block discrimination. If it were not for my debt-to-income ratio... i said to an appraiser that I heard he appraised my house at 212,000 and he said no way my house is worth 219,000. No one bought that appraisal because my pension ratio didnt qualify to get the refinance on these last credit cards. Point is, why would i have the only house that goes up while others go down. I dont think so. So it is all about the game of corruption in the bankers, tellers, apprasiers, real estate signers etc; dont blame the home owners. I stand by millions who like I see them as nuts and suckers to be making these deals. I never intended on owning this house until my death anyways. Why would I want to be like people who get it paid up by retirement age, to sell it and pay rent in a old folks home. What good was it then to buy it, if you sell it. I just want to live in this house, i dont care if the bank owns it until i die.

I think the readers would like to know YOUR income, and your debts, and your payments before you dish out the godliness upon those who owe debts. Moses said every 7th year must zero all debts, paid or not paid. Apparently the word of God is good to you only when youre the collector to gain. I dont see you preaching the law of 7-year bankruptcy which is NOT per individual for whatever year, but was rather the sabbath year which ended all debts whether paid or not paid. Dont speak of God only when its for you and not when its against you, nor be God for those who owe you, and not for those you owe. Double standard will be seen.

[notalent]

no one anywhere ever said Jael was a judge...

You did.  Quote: "which beautiful woman are you referring to.... the judge?"  Honesty is the best policy, don't you think?

I just want to live in this house, i dont care if the bank owns it until i die.

As long as you're making the payments, you're keeping covenant.  If not, then skipping town and leaving the bank holding the bag is covenant breaking.

I think the readers would like to know YOUR income, and your debts, and your payments before you dish out the godliness upon those who owe debts.

I'm not the one who is claiming to skip town on credit card debt.  You said, "My court date for being sued by a credit card was moved from Aug 17 to Aug 20...I leave tomorrow morn Aug 18".

FYI, I am not being sued for non-payment of debt.  I keep my contracts (covenants).

As for the law of Moses you say I don't keep, you of all people should know your covenants.  The Church is not under the covenant law of Moses, but rather under the New Covenant in the blood of Jesus Christ.

[Elijah]

He that lives by contract, will ignore the jest of the contract, so that he dies by contract, and will not escape it. Further, you treat contracts as if connected posts. Your post nosing into my business says nothing about Jael. The fact that you mention Jael in your previous words (to anyone; Reply #4) has nothing to do with the post you refer to me (Reply #6)where you neither refer to Jael, nor refer to any beautiful woman. But you take your own liberty (as if to be God) to claim my question of which beautiful woman (Reply #7) is reference to your posts to others (#4), when in fact it is reference to your not saying anything in Reply #6 about any beautiful woman in reference posts at me. I can look at Reply #6 a million times and I see no Jael said by you. Nor do i have to kiss up to you who loves to hand charlatans backing up to Reply #4 to say that I in Reply #7 was referring to #4. No I was not. I was referring to #6 having no woman in it, where is she, who is she, is she my court judge. (Dude you're also gonna say i plan on destroying a temple in 3 days; it's beyond me how Jesus can be in pain without meds and say forgive them.) I am not a woman, perhaps the judge in my court you refer to or the police woman etc. Nothing to do with Jael, just as YOU had nothing to do with jael in any of your words to me. You retreat in your words #4 to act as if I know nothing of the bible that i would say Jael is a judge. If i didnt know who Jael was, i would have very easily googled better answers up, as I can, and as I do, rather than ask you, than just make remarks saying she is a judge. I said nothing of her; the woman i said who do you refer to means where is this woman in this post to me, THERE IS NONE. This is how I know you will not survive what is coming. But before that happens I expect to die, and you will be mocking me for having died.
Noah and Shem before Nimrod, died before Nimrod, but Abram was after Nimrod yet he died before Eber and before Nimrod. Dying first doesnt make you the wicked.

I am not here for a match of wit. Wit is a game; one I refuse to skill myself at, because it develops an evil heart.

= = IBSA a beautiful one = =
Ibsa is 95 years old, she was born on June 1 in 1914 in Britain. She was presented in 1967 and designated bride in 1971; Haman despised her presentation in 1976, he now urges Judas to leave her side as he did, sitting at her table he wants her dead, but you cannot kill those who are able to be the only humans ever to change in a twinking of an eye at death (144,000 of them). Actually less, the scriptures are clear that until the legal license on earth that all others would sleep until that day (that's about 129,000 sleeping from 33 AD to 1914 AD). About 5000 who have experienced the twinkle since 1914, and 10,000 whom Obama is about to give that experience to. The death of the saints is the rapture that begins the tribulation of government against church, and then culminates with the rock from heaven.
I am the ussher of the bride. I gather not the start of her in 29 AD nor the start of her in 1874, nor her birth in 1914, but now I gather the last of her who must die to save flesh thru Armageddon. To bring her to that gate, i gather her, but then I cannot attend that wedding. Like John I must finish before Jesus, it is not for me to lead the way in death on her day of death, but to lead the way of her death before her death, as John did for Jesus. So I brave Mount Ararat as a sign to her that she must brave coming to the New City. She saves everyone eventually because those who survive armageddon have the power to resurrect all who have ever died. To me that says her blood is gold (but that blood does include those who have already died since the first 12 apostles which were the start of her conception); I do not exclude all the saints just because of the holy sacrifice or blood bath about to occur. These are nto new things to me, they are things I expected in April six months ago, and previously in 1996 Yom Kippur to Passover 1997. But it was 1997 i got called back to work at Chrysler, in 2000 that Palego went internet with Ararat, and 2001 the wood was found, and 2007 that i retired a miraculously accumulated 30 years, and Malachi's Elijah then given a date of year 32 Artaxerxes, and Palego's webmaster said he is waiting for Elijah, etc. This should explain the path that I have experienced. I do not ignore when the last 40 days before Yom Kippur is told to me was the 3rd time of 40 days to a mountain by Moses; when I have flown intent twice for 40 days and the 3rd is the same dates Moses did this.

This span is 40 days, one hour of it (30 days) being the hour of the beast, followed by Revelation's 10 day tribulation. Or perhaps that hour of 30 days is not their 40 days but my 40 days starting 10 days from tomorrow (Aug 28?). Hmmm they bury Michael Jackson on Aug 29. This forum seriously needs an eschatology section because it would cover archeological beleives dug up in books of the past. Just like it needs a creation section, a Flood section, as it already has a Red Sea exodus section despite being 1000 years before some scholars think the Jews began in Babylon.